Overreaction Monday: Loss-loss-loss means chaos all around

Offensive coordinator Brian Schottenheimer and coach Mark Richt both deserve heat for the problems in Georgia’s offense. (Josh Jones / Dawgnation.com)

Offensive coordinator Brian Schottenheimer and coach Mark Richt both deserve heat for the problems in Georgia's offense. (Josh Jones / Dawgnation.com)

Offensive coordinator Brian Schottenheimer and coach Mark Richt both deserve heat for the problems in Georgia’s offense. (Josh Jones / Dawgnation.com)

Welcome back to Overreaction Monday, where this week there is no reaction that would qualify as an overreaction — BECAUSE EVERYBODY LOST.

DATELINE: JACKSONVILLE

GEORGIA

Skinny: 5-3, 3-3 (second place in SEC East). Last week: Lost to Florida 27-3. Next week: Home against Kentucky.

Overreaction narrative: “I’m done with Mark Richt.”

Reality check: I’m done with Mark Richt, too. (Also, with Brian Schottenheimer, but let’s stick with the bigger picture for now.) It took me a long time to reach this point. I was almost there when the 6-7 season of 2010 was followed by a season-opening smackdown by Boise State in 2011. But Richt turned that season around and his team had a strong performance the following year before fading again. Bottom line: I think it would be in the best interest of both parties if Georgia thanked Mark Richt for all he has done in Athens and then he resigns. This is not a situation you want to get ugly. But it’s difficult to get a read on athletic director Greg McGarity right now. Would he push the button if the Dogs win their final four games and finish 9-3 (pre bowl)? I don’t know the answer to that. I’m not sure he knows the answer to that right now.

But if you want to know more about what I think, click this link on Dawgnation.com or this link on AJC.com.

DATELINE: CHARLOTTESVILLE

This look from Lance Austin (the hero of the Florida State game) says it all about what happened at Virginia.

This look from Lance Austin (the hero of the Florida State game) says it all about what happened at Virginia.

GEORGIA TECH

Skinny: 3-6, 1-5 (seventh place in ACC Coastal). Last week: Lost 27-21 at Virginia. Next week: Bye. (Next game: Thursday, Nov. 12, vs. Virginia Tech.)

Overreaction narrative: “I told you the win over Florida State was an aberration.”

Reality check: No argument. I thought Tech would beat Virginia, not because I suddenly believed the Jackets were a great team but because Virginia wasn’t that good, either. Also, the Jackets played so well defensively against Florida State and seemed to catch some mojo with the implausible finish that game — a blocked field goal attempt followed by a 78-yard return for a touchdown at the end of regulation — that Tech seemingly had a chance to finish the season strong. But no. Nothing is going to safe this season. The Jackets continue to have significant offensive problems, stemming largely from line issues, and rushed for 144 yards. In an option, that’s low. The Jackets’ defensive front also allowed 233 yards rushing. This is Virginia, not the power rushing attack of the Seattle Seahawks. Tech theoretically can still qualify for a bowl game but that would mean beating Virginia Tech, Miami (road) and Georgia, and they may be underdogs in all three.

DATELINE: GEORGIA DOME

It would help the Falcons' offense if offensive coordinator Kyle Shanahan and quarterback Matt Ryan could get Roddy White (left) more involved in the game plan. (Curtis Compton / ccompton@ajc.com)

It would help the Falcons’ offense if offensive coordinator Kyle Shanahan and quarterback Matt Ryan could get Roddy White (left) more involved in the game plan. (Curtis Compton / ccompton@ajc.com)

FALCONS

Skinny: 6-2 (second place in NFC South). Last week: Lost 23-20 in overtime to Tampa Bay. Next week: at San Francisco.

Overreaction narrative: “This team won’t make the playoffs.”

Reality check: Yeah, they will. The Falcons lost the game largely because of turnovers — four, which led to all 20 Tampa Bay points in regulation. Turnovers aren’t about scheme or skill or even coaching. JUST DON’T DROP THE BALL. See how that works? The Falcons have 12 turnovers in the last four games after committing only two in the first four. But there are other reasons for concern. The offense struggled in the red zone against the Buccaneers. Their first five trips into that “score zone” resulted in two turnovers, two field goals and only one touchdown. If the Falcons get to the end zone in just one of those other drives, they win the game. Quarterback Matt Ryan seemingly is struggling with reads in run-pass option plays (which led to one of the fumbles during a botched exchange with Devonta Freeman) and it would really help if offensive coordinator Kyle Shanahan could elevate Roddy White into something more than a blocker in the weekly game plan. Because the guy can make clutch catches, you know? Defensively, the Falcons were beat up, losing two starting cornerbacks (Desmond Trufant, Robert Alford) and two linemen (Tyson Jackson, Paul Soliai) during the game, after starting without safety William Moore. Until the defense gets healthy — and until some semblance of a pass rush is found — the Falcons are going to need to score more points.

Recent ramblings
Mark Richt has failed too many big moments — it’s time for a change at Georgia
Falcons may be 6-2 but they don’t look the part
Short takes: Sloppy Falcons gift-wrap game for mediocre Bucs
Matt Ryan: ‘It comes down to me being better’
Weekend Predictions: Jacksonville on Halloween? Ooh, scary: Gators over Dogs
Georgia’s quarterback problems fall at Mark Richt’s feet
Budenholzer can coach but can he build a champion?
Overreaction Monday: Ryan’s off, Tech’s alive and Georgia…
Georgia Tech has unforgettable moment in otherwise forgettable season
• Short takes on Georgia Tech’s miracle win over Florida State
Weekend Predictions: Falcons win, Jackets lose, ACC miserable
(Full column) Rick Pitino should lose job, culpable for Louisville mess
Rick Pitino may not survive latest claims regarding strippers, recruits
Overreaction Monday: Would Richt give Ramsey another look?
Misery like this shouldn’t happen at Georgia Tech
Short takes: Tech’s run of bowls, non-losing ACC seasons will end
Falcons flash some of their ugly past in loss to Saints
• Short takes: Falcons still plagued by poor pass rush, turnovers
Weekend Predictions: Spurrier, Cubs, Playboy…and Georgia can still win SEC East!
• Spurrier changed face of SEC, and then he walked out the back door
Health would be Spurrier’s only good excuse for retiring in middle of season
• Florida quarterback suspended for PEDs — and claims of, ‘I didn’t know’ ring hollow
Overreaction Monday: Chubb’s loss isn’t Georgia’s only problem
• There goes Chubb, there goes a loss, there goes Georgia’s season
• Short takes: After loss, Georgia is trailing even Kentucky in SEC East
• It’s too late to save season but Sefolosha deserved to hear words, ‘Not guilty’
Weekend Predictions: No fantasy, Chihuahuas will rebound (I think)
Braves may have a plan but it will be a while before masses buy in
Here’s your Depressed Braves Fan viewing guide to the postseason
Overeaction Monday: Now is not time to make decision on Richt
Falcons 4-0, Freeman 7 TDs — who didn’t see that coming?
• Short takes: An easy Falcons win, and this is a team to take seriously
Richt and Georgia fall off stage again when it matters most
Short takes: Georgia’s reality check — there’s a problem at quarterback
Georgia needs win over Alabama to alter perceptions
Weekend Predictions: Nothing sinister here – Dogs over Bama
Georgia hired Jeremy Pruitt for games like this
Nationals are a more attractive mess than the Braves
Overreaction Monday: Georgia may be 4-0 but season starts now
Georgia now can prepare for opponent that matters most: Alabama

 

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StanH
StanH

Vic NO-Show Beasley

DawgNole
DawgNole

@StanH

Translation:

Another Falcon NO-Show Draft Pick.

Mora-less-Petrino
Mora-less-Petrino

The Hawks are rolling and the Falcons should  make the playoffs. 

2015 college ball in GA can R.I.P. The gravitationally challenged lady is the performing the halftime show  at Sanford Stadium on Nov 28. GT and UGA are splitting the cost.

magnolia tx dawg
magnolia tx dawg

I expect nothing less than a SEC championship under Eason. He is Georgia's savior. After that, a National Championship. He is our savior. 

Eric_C
Eric_C

Gabbert's stats last time he started vs Falcons,


12-22-141-1-1    5 sacks  and  91 net passing yards

DawgNole
DawgNole

@Eric_C

Eric_C's stats last time he made a prediction on the UGA-fla game:

0-1.

TideDawg
TideDawg

OH:IO.....But-eye....you are about the funniest blogger I've ever read. How in the world do you write all of those charming and funny things with your head up your butt?

Big Wally
Big Wally

@TideDawg his butt is jealous of the amount of crap that comes out of his brain.

TideDawg
TideDawg

Seems like Brice Ramsey got all of the same savior hype that Ga. Fans are giving Eason. He hasn't played a game yet and neither has Ramsey. Two good questions for Eason: Can he complete passes from the prone position? Can he play from behind? Unless Ga. corrects defensive problems they will always play down in the score.


Even the best Captains can't guide a rudderless ship.

GTBob
GTBob

@TideDawg There was probably more hype around Jacob Park than Ramsey. Neither turned out very well.

AlwaysReady
AlwaysReady

@GTBob 

But number 30 of the St. Louis Rams turned out very, very well.

DawgNole
DawgNole

@AlwaysReady

Indeed he has.

But don't remind GTB. He's pretending really hard not to know (or care) about the remarkable stats of Gurley, whom he ridiculed as unworthy of a first-round draft pick--much less top 10.

DawginLex
DawginLex

Tampa, don't turn your back on OHIO aka Elton


He called you cupcake


Next thing he will call you sweetie and send you flowers

DawgNole
DawgNole

@DawginLex

Probably not a good idea to turn your back on either one of them. 

And you certainly wouldn't want to bend over.

TampGator1
TampGator1

For those of you wanting Richt fired:


Georgia quarterback commit (Easton) followed Florida offensive coordinator Doug Nussmeier on Twitter two days after UF’s 27-3 win over UGA.  Eason, a five-star recruit, told 247Sports the Gators have reached out to him and said he followed Nussmeier so they could communicate.  He is still considered a strong commit to Georgia but many think that would change if Richt is not retained. 

DawginLex
DawginLex

@TampGator1  Not a reason to keep a coach but he would be a loss


I think UGA would be in some hot water too because Eason has already signed FA papers and UGA has openly spoke of him coming in. I think LSU got burned last year with a similar situation

dawg fan
dawg fan

@TampGator1 I can't think of a dumber reason to keep Mark Richt. 


I guess you were living in a freaking cave when Murray and Stafford were lighting up the stat sheets but still losing all the big ones? 


I guess it didn't occur to you that Eason might be wavering on his commitment due to the putrid results Mark Richt has brought us this year?  No, of course not. 



DawginLex
DawginLex

@dawg fan @TampGator1  Pretty sure he is wavering because he wants to play for Richt


Still not a reason to keep a coach


If we part ways with Richt, we will hire a coach that Eason will want to play for.

TampGator1
TampGator1

@dawg fan


Eason is not yet "wavering" on his commitment to Georgia.  But he might if Richt leaves.  And it might then turn into a Florida/Bama battle for his services.  Frankly, I hope Richt wins out and Eason ends up at Georgia.  I think Grier's suspension might be shortened and I feel fine with either Grier or Harris playing QB for the Gators the next few years.  And the Gators have an outstanding QB committed already for 2017 and a real sleeper (2 star QB) commit for this year.  I am pulling for Georgia to win out and finish 10-3. 

Eric_C
Eric_C

@TampGator1 @dawg fan  my feeling is there are a lot more opposing fans hoping CMR stays at UGA than UGA fans.  I've always supported CMR, but I can't tell that he really cares about losing anymore.

DawgNole
DawgNole

@Eric_C

You forgot to remind tg1 about your expert opinion last week:

Eric_C October 22, 2015

. . . I picked the Dawgs to lose to UT for good reason, and feel just as confident that the Dawgs will defeat the Gators . . . .

TampGator1
TampGator1

Not sure why I am responding to OH-IO. Just an ostrich with his head up his.........

OH:IO
OH:IO

tampa says we play no one for "most" of November


There are 4 football Saturdays in November.


We have Sparty and Harbaugh back to back - that is 2 of the 4. 


So, tampa, define "most of November".

TampGator1
TampGator1

@OH:IO


Yes, I will spell it for you......MINNESOTA and ILLINOIS.  The Buckeyed Peas must be shaking in their boots.


I will also spell September for you.........Hawaii, N. Illinois, and W. Michigan....better know as the "Mopping up on the Mac" schedule.


And.....Michigan can't punt a football and Michigan State is glad they can't. 

OH:IO
OH:IO

Even Iowa is ranked higher than tampa's gators. 


What does that tell ya?

TampGator1
TampGator1

@OH:IO


Iowa's schedule to date:


Illinois State

Iowa State

Pitt

North Texas State

Wisconsin

Illinois

Northwestern

Maryland


No team in the top 25 and I don't believe any "other teams receiving votes" on that schedule.  Sound familiar? Biggest win is over Pitt 27 to 24, the same Pitt team that lost to North Carolina and the same North Carolina team that lost to South Carolina.


We will see with the CFP rankings come out tonight if the powerhouse Hawkeyes are ranked over my Gators.

OH:IO
OH:IO

It seems tampa is proud of his Nov 21 cupcakes. 

OH:IO
OH:IO

Speaking of November SEC! SEC! LEAST cupcakes, good luck with Vanderbilt, tampa.

TampGator1
TampGator1

@OH:IO

Proud to have beaten Ole Miss, Tennessee, and Georgia and playing LSU in Baton Rouge toe to toe.  And Florida plays its remaining SEC schedule and then FSU.....with FLA Atlantic in between. So, your point? 

TampGator1
TampGator1

@OH:IO


Florida plays its SEC schedule.  And I can assure you that schedule is better than any team's BIG schedule.....including your said Buckeyes schedule.  Keep foaming from the brain. 

TampGator1
TampGator1

@OH:IO


And a win over Vandy gives the Gators the SEC East title.  I will take that.

WhatExcuseNow
WhatExcuseNow

Sorry Bob. The CFP selection committee thinks differently. #3 SoS with a 1-1 record against its top 25 (18&19). About to face #2 and follow that up with #20 the next week. And FL is top 10. Yeah, Bama plays lots of tough games and their share of cupcakes. For the record, I have railed against that on here and Al.com only to have many others defend this scheduling without being Bama fans necessarily.

TideDawg
TideDawg

If you want to schedule two cupcakes for the 2016 season.....check Ohio States schedule and pick any 2 that are not Michigan or MSU

GTBob
GTBob

@TideDawg Neither of your teams has beaten a ranked team this year. Why are you even talking about other teams schedules?

OH:IO
OH:IO

@TideDawg


And the dogs can pick any two not Alabama and Florida


Hy -Po- Crite tide dog

TampGator1
TampGator1

@OH:IO 


Tennessee would beat Iowa badly.  Oh....they did in a bowl last year.  And I believe Tennessee played Georgia.  Foam just pours from your mouth, doesn't it.

TampGator1
TampGator1

@GTBob


Because life is like a box of chocolates to him.  Just not a smart man. 

TideDawg
TideDawg

@OH:IO @TideDawg  SorryBut-eye, in the SEC you don't get to hand pick conference opponents...just dates played. How does Iowa get to skip all 3 ranked Big Ten teams?

TideDawg
TideDawg

@GTBob @TideDawg  Well, the Tide is not very good. We have to schedule all of those cupcakes. They used to play Tech but Tech is too tough for them and PJ is too smart. The Dawgs.....same thing they are just not in the same league with GT, Appalachian St., Alcorn State and Tulane. Go to bed tonight knowing you were right. Selah!

bobbyross1990
bobbyross1990

The one thing that stands out this season more than any other season under head coach Paul Johnson is that opposing teams are making dang sure Tech does not get their option game going, come hell or high water. Stubborn as a mule, PJ is sticking to his guns. I really wonder if he will tweak his offense in the future? The option is a sight to behold when it's working but this season it has just not been there. 

TideDawg
TideDawg

@bobbyross1990  It's never going to be there if that's all you do and PJ's goal is to prove that it works......come hell or high water. He should go back to Div. II where he's not facing a big fast front 7 every week. Tech could always be a factor but not as long as PJ is coach. Even the weak teams have figured out how to stop his offense. Even after 6 losses he still says "my offense works", but the players are not executing their assignments. Heck, everybody's offense works if the players carry out their assignments. His opponents zip down the field and score 2 touchdowns in 6 minutes....PJ's offense runs 8 minutes off the clock scoring one TD.

GTBob
GTBob

@TideDawg So your theory is that no one had a clue how to defend it the first 7 years but year 8 was the magical year that everyone figured it out?

bobbyross1990
bobbyross1990

@TideDawg @bobbyross1990 I'm not buying that for one second. Why didn't teams figure it out after a couple of games his first season? And now it took them 8 seasons to figure it out? LOL uh, no. Not quite. T

TideDawg
TideDawg

@GTBob @TideDawg  What were the records in those years. Seems like there may have been 2 good years.

TideDawg
TideDawg

@bobbyross1990 @TideDawg  Are you contradicting your very own post. Quote: " Opposing teams are making dang sure Tech does not get their offense going" What exactly does that mean? Tweak his offense in the future? Does that mean he needs to change?? Really!!!

bobbyross1990
bobbyross1990

@TideDawg @bobbyross1990 "Are you contradicting your very own post?" Do you like to hear yourself talk? Yes, I think he will have to adjust some but the team is banged up and young. PJ is not an idiot. But you have new evidence to prove otherwise I imagine. SMH

GTBob
GTBob

@TideDawg By GT standards, four of those years were pretty good ones. Three of them were average to mediocre. One was bad. Also, offense is only one part of the game. Alabama hasn't been winning national titles because they have had great offenses.