Overreaction Monday: Chubb’s loss isn’t Georgia’s only problem

Georgia offensive coordinator Brian Schottenheimer sends in a play with quarterback Greyson Lambert late in the 4th quarter against Tennessee in Knoxville. (Brant Sanderlin / bsanderlin@ajc.com)

Georgia offensive coordinator Brian Schottenheimer sends in a play with quarterback Greyson Lambert late in the 4th quarter against Tennessee in Knoxville. (Brant Sanderlin / bsanderlin@ajc.com)

Georgia offensive coordinator Brian Schottenheimer sends in a play with quarterback Greyson Lambert late in the 4th quarter against Tennessee in Knoxville. (Brant Sanderlin / bsanderlin@ajc.com)

It’s Overreaction Monday. Georgia may not win a game the rest of the season, the Falcons may not lose one, and Georgia Tech … wait, are they still playing?

GEORGIA (4-2, 2-2; lost at Tennessee 38-31)

Overreaction narrative: “Nick Chubb’s injury submarines the season.”

Reality check: Well, yes. But it doesn’t have to be that way. The biggest problem in Athens is not that Georgia lost its best player at Tennessee to a serious knee injury — Chubb tore three ligaments on the first play of the game and faces surgery and a lengthy rehabilitation — but that the rest of the team is a mess. Sony Michel is talented and certainly more than adequate as a starting SEC running back. He reaffirmed that with an amazing 66-yard run against the Volunteers and rushing for 145 yards. But the Bulldogs have major problems in the areas of: 1) Quarterback (Greyson Lambert, Brice Ramsey and presumably Faton Bauta  aren’t good enough to beat good teams; 2) Defense (coordinator Jeremy Pruitt’s arrival last season was trumpeted by  all but his unit’s tackling was dreadful in Knoxville, pass coverage is getting worse and the defensive front has been run over too often by the opposing team’s rushing game; 3) Play-calling: The knock on Brian Schottenheimer in the NFL was his lack of creativity in play-calling, and that appears to be the case here. I understand the limitations when a team has quarterback deficiencies but there haven’t been a lot of moments this season when you’ve watched Georgia’s offense and thought, “Hey, that was different.” Having Chubb and depth in the running game can make up for deficiencies. But those deficiencies were probably going to bury this Georgia team in the long run anyway — unless there’s a U-turn up ahead, but I’m not seeing that right now. With SEC games remaining against Missouri (home), Florida (Jacksonville), Kentucky (home) and Auburn (road), the Dogs look like no better than a 4-4 team in the conference, and that may be stretching it.

Falcons quarterback Matt Ryan gets off a pass under pressure from Washington linebacker Ryan Kerrigan during the first half in their game on Sunday. (Curtis Compton / ccompton@ajc.com)

Falcons quarterback Matt Ryan gets off a pass under pressure from Washington linebacker Ryan Kerrigan during the first half in their game on Sunday. (Curtis Compton / ccompton@ajc.com)

FALCONS (5-0; defeated Washington in overtime 25-19)

Overreaction narrative: “We’re so good, we can’t lose even when we’re bad.”

Reality check: Great teams do that. The Falcons aren’t a great team but they’re a good team having a great season because they have found ways to win games (four of their five victories coming on fourth-quarter comebacks). In today’s NFL, teams can win a lot of games by just playing hard for four quarters and not beating themselves. The Falcon did beat themselves against Washington Sunday. Quarterback Matt Ryan had his worse game of the season with two interceptions, a fumble and 24-of-42 passing. For most of 58 minutes, he stunk. But with the Falcons trailing 16-12, Ryan was great when it mattered in the final minutes of regulation, leading the offense on a 10-play, 80-yard touchdown drive in 2:14. Overall, Ryan has five turnovers (four interceptions, one fumble) in five games and a quarterback efficiency rating of 90.7, which ranks only 18th in the NFL. He needs to get better and so does this team’s pass rush. But at 5-0, it’s all good going into Thursday’s game against struggling rival New Orleans (1-4).

Georgia Tech head coach Paul Johnson walks the sidelines during the second half of a game against Clemson Saturday. (AP photo)

Georgia Tech head coach Paul Johnson walks the sidelines during the second half of a game against Clemson Saturday. (AP photo)

GEORGIA TECH (2-4, 0-3, lost at Clemson 43-24)

Overreaction narrative: “I’ve never experienced a year like this in my coaching career, being as inept as we are.”

Reality check: Actually, that’s not a fan or media narrative — that’s a direct quote from Tech coach Paul Johnson after the loss at Clemson. He’s right. And that’s on him and his coaching staff. Two of the losses in this four-game streak have come to top 10 teams (Notre Dame, Clemson) but the Jackets also lost to Duke and North Carolina. With three of Tech’s remaining six games coming against Florida State, at Miami and Georgia, the Jackets will struggle to just become bowl eligible — and the way they’re playing on both sides of the ball makes it uncertain they’ll beat Pitt, Virginia and Virginia Tech. It’s staggering how far Tech has fallen. The Jackets returned a team that should have won at least its division in the ACC. Quarterback Justin Thomas had been the team’s best player, but he has regressed, partly because he’s trying to do too much. That Tech-Georgia game could be … interesting.

GEORGIA STATE (1-4, 1-1; lost to Appalachian State 37-3)

Georgia State coach Trent Miles heads a struggling problem that seems to be off the radar on campus. (Photo by Jason Getz)

Georgia State coach Trent Miles heads a struggling problem that seems to be off the radar on campus. (Photo by Jason Getz)

Overreaction narrative: “What’s the point of going to a game?”

Reality check: The answer is none, unless you just want to support a local team — and apparently almost nobody does. The school announced attendance as 10,101 for Saturday’s loss, and as always that figure was arrived at with some creative math. Trent Miles may not be a bad football coach but he’s having a difficult time building or selling a product and the resources at Georgia State may be limited. Would that change if the school gets a new stadium on the soon-to-be old Turner Field site? Maybe. But there’s nothing for anybody to hold onto right now.

Recent ramblings
• There goes Chubb, there goes a loss, there goes Georgia’s season
 Short takes: After loss, Georgia is trailing even Kentucky in SEC East
• It’s too late to save season but Sefolosha deserved to hear words, ‘Not guilty’
Weekend Predictions: No fantasy, Chihuahuas will rebound (I think)
Braves may have a plan but it will be a while before masses buy in
Here’s your Depressed Braves Fan viewing guide to the postseason
Overeaction Monday: Now is not time to make decision on Richt
Falcons 4-0, Freeman 7 TDs — who didn’t see that coming?
• Short takes: An easy Falcons win, and this is a team to take seriously
Richt and Georgia fall off stage again when it matters most
Short takes: Georgia’s reality check — there’s a problem at quarterback
Georgia needs win over Alabama to alter perceptions
Weekend Predictions: Nothing sinister here – Dogs over Bama
Georgia hired Jeremy Pruitt for games like this
Nationals are a more attractive mess than the Braves
Overreaction Monday: Georgia may be 4-0 but season starts now
Georgia now can prepare for opponent that matters most: Alabama
Short takes on Georgia’s win over Southern
Weekend Predictions: Lilly takes the lead and likes Falcons
Falcons’ fourth-quarter fizzles absent so far under Dan Quinn
Braves have been more adept at building off field than on it
Overreaction Monday: Are things as they seem with Falcons, Dogs, Jackets?
Georgia chases away Spurrier demons with dominating performance
Short takes: Lambert says, ‘I just had to go through a rough patch’
Georgia can’t blow game, Tech can’t blow chance
Tech over Irish, Georgia over South Carolina (but not by 17)
Tech has something Georgia would like — comfort at quarterback position
An impressive opening by Dan Quinn’s new Falcons
Short takes: Gruden praises Falcons’ defense after win
Georgia looks like a shaky 2-0 with its passing game
Short takes: Another Georgia win but QB issues continue
Weekend Predictions: I can’t block this Falcons’ upset from my brain
 

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513 comments
WhatExcuseNow
WhatExcuseNow

Seriously, fans are still coming to a Monday blog to post comments on a Thursday. And it's not about any late updates happening to original story. And it's most certainly not that no other interesting college football stories have not occurred (Spurrier, Sarkisian) since. So if it isn't either of these, then what???? Could it be the format that this site puts forth open to everyone [no facebook required] or are there only a handful of True Dawg fans evidenced by the number of posts on DawgNation articles????? So the state of Georgia has roughly 50 fans total or with access to facebook???? Yeah, go with that one AJC. Y'alls business advertising strategy will do well with it.

Sheeeesh....

OH:IO
OH:IO

Chip on 680. "We don't have Mt. Everest's left on our schedule."


SEC! SEC! LEAST

TideDawg
TideDawg

Wreck, you and PJ have all of he answers. PJ always blames his players, never the coaching they get. You......what can I say? You flounder around from blog to blog hoping for attention. OK! You got some attention. Now what? Try somebody else, you're over matched here. Try the Emory blog. There are doctors there that might help you. 

Big Wally
Big Wally

UGA football.  Look at the excuses falling from the sky.  DawgNation even says the UGA spin doctors are having to work OT after the last 2 weeks.

OH:IO
OH:IO

Five hundred and ONE


Show me a dog local interest that has 25 comments.  

Big Wally
Big Wally

@OH:IO Yea, but 480 are yours saying the same crap over and over again.

OH:IO
OH:IO

Every time I click on a Chip Tweet link to dog local interest, I change the channel.


When will the AJC realize how many readers ignore it - and SEC! SEC! Region. 

Big Wally
Big Wally

@OH:IO They did it hoping you would go away, you know like the Tech blog, where you belong.

Sayinthisagain
Sayinthisagain

@OH:IO @Big Wally 12-2 hurts...a real 'techeye' ....why in the world would a supposed ohio fan spend so much effort on a atlanta area blog?...a true north ave trade school fan...

dawg fan
dawg fan

I'm feeling much better now because it sounds like Richt has a plan.  The seniors just need to "infiltrate their energy into the team."  Yeah, that's the ticket. 


Mark Richt's little known cameo in Happy Gilmore:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OAs2PBL1RsA


What a clown. 


reddjonn68
reddjonn68

Falcons ranked #3 in power rankings is to high, schedule is very favorable. Would have liked to have seen them against Cowboys at full strength, to get a real picture of where we are.

The Bulldog program is a mess Richt has had ample time in 15 years to install whatever was needed to get them to next level. When you see programs being turned around overnight in college it is always the coaching staff not 1 or 2 recruits here & there.


Now as for Tech, it had a prime opportunity against FSU last year to reach the next level, now that running attack is being exposed by a poor defense. Example every year the service academies do well ( Navy, Army, or UFA) their defenses usually play well enough to keep them in games. "Old school method" solid defense + ground game = wins

DawgDadII
DawgDadII

I may be a bit late to the party here, but . . .


The SEC is a tough neighborhood, but the Dawgs over the past few years have found creative ways to make less out of more. Green and Gurley suspensions, not to mention the myriad of other disciplinary issues and penalties, have held the team back. We are seeing quite a bit of undisciplined play on the field this season (compare UGA to Alabama or Florida this year, for example). Saban is seemingly coaching a higher level of leadership out of his assistants than Richt does, too. From afar (not inside the locker room) it appears the standards and accountability need to be elevated.


Falcons are 5-0 and Quinn and the team deserve a ton of credit for patching up the offensive line and the defense and playing at a high level through the final gun. That said, we've witnessed a very sloppy NFL product to this point in the 2015 season. I don't think parity explains what we saw from the Falcons opponents, the quality of play especially in the NFC East is slipping badly. Falcons are fortunate to have three very dysfunctional Divisions on their schedule this year, Carolina excluded.


JohnnyBuckles
JohnnyBuckles

Lambert looks lost on the football field he was staring down one receiver when he two open and he did that the whole game against Tennessee.

Our defense is needs work I didn't realize we were playing freshmen in the secondary they need to play tighter coverage or get to the quarterback quicker Tennessee was able to pick us apart was painful to watch that game so many times Dobbs had a open man for 15 plus yards just like Alabama did too us.

I hate to say it but if things change in a hurry we could lose a few more games Missouri has a dang good defense    

WhatExcuseNow
WhatExcuseNow

One might conclude that people still posting on this 24 hour old blog with all these interesting Spurrier stories on Dawgnation and very little fanfare there, this format would be ideal for generating hits in place of that format. But someone worked hard designing that crappola site so AJC will continue using it to the detriment of fans who have reiterated they much prefer interacting on this format. Way to sell your product AJC......sheeeesh!!!!!

TampGator1
TampGator1

Flat Tire.  I fully understand you are just running you mouth.  But so you know.  Treon Harris was a 4-star DT QB coming out of one of the best high school football programs in America in Booker T. Washington.  He led his HS team to a national tile and personally ran all over Lorenzo Carter and Norcross in Norcross his senior year.  McElwain thinks very highly of Harris, but the question concerning him and Florida is if he fits well into the system McElwain runs on offense.  And by the way, the QB battle at Florida was neck and neck between Grier and Harris all summer with Grier winning out because he was the better fit in McElwain's offensive scheme.  But I am sure McElwain will now adapt the offense now to better fit what Harris does well and, unlike Muschamp, will not try to force him to do things he does not do well.  I do not think you will see that great of a drop off with Harris as the QB; just a very different offensive approach with Harris at QB.  The bigger issue is that Florida no longer has a capable (or decent) backup QB if Harris gets hurt in a game. 

FlatTire
FlatTire

@TampGator1 Just so I know?  Golf clap that he was a 4 star; wasn't Jeff Driskel a 5 star that was the #1 rated High school qb?  Harris hasn't shown me much

TampGator1
TampGator1

@FlatTire


Harris was the freshman All-SEC QB last year.  That is something.  He also led the comeback vs. the Vols last year.  That is something else.  He also was the QB of the team that beat Georgia 38 to 20.  That is something.  He also led the Gators to a win in a bowl game last year, although a minor bowl.  That is something.  But the biggest something is, even though he hasn't shown you much, he has shown Jim McElwain a lot.  That is really something. 

FlatTire
FlatTire

Next season is looking to be a championship year for UGA


No Bama or LSU

No Spurier

No decent QB at FL

No decent QB at Aub

Tech LOL

Tennessee will flounder again


Who is ready for an undefeated year woof woof woof

Infraredguy
Infraredguy

@FlatTire Dawgs will win it all next year guaranteed and if they don't, they for sure will do it the next year

JohnnyBuckles
JohnnyBuckles

@FlatTire every football game is winnable all the game Georgia played this year they could have won.Mistakes have plagued Georgia for years and cost Georgia the Tennessee game and let the Alabama game get out of hand. 

TideDawg
TideDawg

All of this hostility and anger. It's time for a good joke......Let's talk about Georgia Tech and Paul Johnson's unstoppable offense.


PJ....I've never seen anything like this in my entire coaching career. ......Just another way of self aggrandizing.

I think the truth is even his players don't believe in his coaching or his offense.


Somebody tell me! Is Duke on the same academic level as GT? .......How are they doing?

Wreck13
Wreck13

@TideDawg hahaha try again if it makes you feel better. Tech with 2-3 stars losing or UGa losing with a team of 4-5 stars. 

SkokieDog
SkokieDog

This news just in: Athens Fire Department staff from the Five Points Station just answered a call to douse the dumpster fire by the Butts-Mehre building on the U.Ga. campus. Film at eleven....

TideDawg
TideDawg

I don't want to see Richt replaced....I want to see an attitude change from passive to hostile. This is big boy football not a church social. Whatever happened to A-GILE, MO-BILE, AND HOS-TILE???? You guys that have been there know what that means. You can still be Christian, a nice guy, and love everybody but football is a violent game and on Saturdays you survive by being tough and hardnosed. I love it that Richt is a Christian and a nice guy but I don't like the attitude that's developed about losing.


I saw this at Alabama before Saban. He came in and lost to a couple of nobodies and the fans, team and administration found out real quick that it was unacceptable and he changed the attitude. It makes me sad to think that Ga. is going into that mode where a few losses are acceptable. It's not un-fixable, unless it's acceptable.


Big Wally
Big Wally

@TideDawg UGA had that in Richt's first few years.  Unfortunately, I have come to the conclusion that it didn't have anything to do with Richt, it was because of Van Gorder.  UGA hasn't been tough since he left.

Big Wally
Big Wally

Been hearing a lot of reasons and theories about why Spurrier decided to leave now.  Here's mine.  He can't stand to lose, especially to rivals. Getting waxed by Georgia hurt him bad.  No way he is going to stick around and get waxed by Florida and especially Clemson in his last game (assuming they don't go to a bowl).   He left now, because he didn't want to put up with those beatdowns.   I don't consider leaving now any great honorable act, like many on the radio are making out.

dawg fan
dawg fan

@Big Wally  I think it shows that Spurrier doesn't really give a flying crap about what people think about him on a personal level.  All he cares about is winning.  That was, after all, his job.  It was NOT his job to make sure everybody liked him and felt all warm and fuzzy inside when they thought of him.  He's a football coach, not a celebrity. 


If coaching college football were a popularity contest Richt would be a 14 time coach of the year.  Everybody loves him.  They also love playing his team because there's a decent chance they will be underprepared and lack focus. 


Give me a football coach over some golden boy figurehead. 



TideDawg
TideDawg

@Big Wally  Opinions vary and dawg fan got it right. Spurrier always did everything he could to take the heat off of his team and put on himself. Needling the other teams put the heat on him and he had no fear. He was and is a great coach.

OH:IO
OH:IO

@Big Wally


Please. It's not always ALL about the dogs. 


Gimme a break, Lil wally.

Big Wally
Big Wally

@DawgNole @Big Wally @OH:IO unfortunately, he will be back on here tomorrow talking about the dawgs, but then saying everything doesn't revolve around the dawgs.  He's kind of a walking talking contradiction.

Big Wally
Big Wally

@OH:IO @Big Wally This coming from a supposed OSU fan who spends every waking moment on Dawg blogs.            


BOOM!


Down goes OH:IO for the count

ShootinTheHooch
ShootinTheHooch

When MR took the UGA job, he said championships could be won with the talent in Georgia. Very true. Championships have been won by Bama, Auburn, and FSU with much of the talent coming from Georgia since Richt made that comment. 

Since Smart recruits the elite athletes from Georgia better than the HC at the state's flagship institution, should he get the SC job, I wouldn't be surprised if the Gamecocks get a championship before Richt.

dawg fan
dawg fan

@ShootinTheHooch  Yes, it's funny how the Disney crowd forgets all the grandiose rhetoric of the early 00's. Richt said he was going to "blow the lid off."  He knocked it loose but now it's been shut back and sealed.  We used to talk about SEC and national titles around here.  No one was afraid of it.  Now it's all about 10 win seasons and the ball bouncing our way and the stars aligning.  Mention a national title and you'll get a laundry list of reasons out of the Disney crowd on how it can't happen.  "Oh gee golly it's just so hard.  A lot has to go your way" they'll tell you. 


It's a defeatist cowardly mentality that has been fostered by our "good but not great' head coach.  This program is full of nothing but excuses under Mark Richt.   

OH:IO
OH:IO

@ShootinTheHooch



Ohio State has grabbed their fair share too. Bradley Roby, Heyward and Raquon McMilllon come immediately to mind.

Big Wally
Big Wally

CBS sports reporting Kirby Smart is leading candidate to replace the evil one.  Richt better hope he turns into another Muschamp instead of another Saban.  Ga. will have egg on it's face if he turns into another Saban.

OH:IO
OH:IO

@Big Wally


There's no more room for more egg on face for the dogs. 

Wreck13
Wreck13

Where are your comments and assessments on the KENNESAW STATE OWLS?

Big Wally
Big Wally

Just read the Bleacher Report that I have been hearing about "the one that says Mark Richt's job is not, nor should it be in jeopardy".  

I'll summarize it for you, it again repeats all of his accomplishments (what is doesn't point out, is that most of that came his first 5-7 year) and that UGA fans should just be content on having a mediocre head coach and not aspire to have anyone better.

That pretty much shows the pathetic mindset of  the Richt apologists in a nutshell.   Keep drinking that cool aid during this year's bowl game in such exotic locations at Charlotte, Memphis or Shreveport.  

dawg fan
dawg fan

@Big Wally  What I would like these people to explain to me is how in the world Mark Richt is going to win another title.  All they do is talk about the past.  They don't talk about the present or the future.  What leads them to believe Mark Richt is capable of anything more than the occasional 10 win season and a bunch of crap in between?  What am I missing?  I'm not seeing anything. 


They don't want to talk about any of that.  They only want to talk about a 10 year old SEC Title and what a swell guy he is.