Braves have been more adept at building off field than on it

Cobb County chairman Tim Lee, left, Atlanta Braves chairman Terry McGuirk, second from left, SunTrust CEO William Rogers, third from left, Georgia Gov. Nathan Deal, second from right, and Hall of Fame baseball player Hank Aaron, right, wrap up a ground breaking ceremony Tuesday, Sept. 16, 2014, in Atlanta, for the Atlanta Braves new baseball stadium, which will be called SuntTust Park. The Braves will be moving from Turner Field in Fulton County to the new stadium being built in Cobb County in 2017. (AP Photo/John Amis)

Cobb County chairman Tim Lee, left, Atlanta Braves chairman Terry McGuirk, second from left, SunTrust CEO William Rogers, third from left, Georgia Gov. Nathan Deal, second from right, and Hall of Fame baseball player Hank Aaron, right, wrap up a ground breaking ceremony Tuesday, Sept. 16, 2014, in Atlanta, for the Atlanta Braves new baseball stadium, which will be called SuntTust Park. The Braves will be moving from Turner Field in Fulton County to the new stadium being built in Cobb County in 2017. (AP Photo/John Amis)

The Braves have become experts on getting other people to build stuff for them. (AP photo)

The Braves aren’t good at winning championships, but they seem to excel above all others in at least one area: Getting  government entities to build things for them.

They got a free stadium after the 1996 Olympics (Turner Field).

They’re getting $368 million in a bond sale from Cobb County for a $672 million stadium — as well as $35 million for capital maintenance, bringing the public money assault to a total of about $400 million. (The Braves will, however, pay some of the debt service as rent. Why? Because they’re givers, of course.)

And now, this: The St. Petersburg Times is reporting that a group is attempting to lure the Braves to Pinellas County (Fla.) as their new spring training home. The bait on the hook: a 240-acre, $662 million mixed used development that could house two major league teams.

The complex would be built on an old landfill. The Braves currently have the second-worst record in baseball at 60-91. I think they call this symmetry.

No specifics of the potential deal have been reported regarding the Braves’ financial stake in this, if any. But John Schuerholz, the Braves’ president and unofficial Rich Uncle Pennybags (“Monopoly” game man), was quoted in a letter in the 258-page proposal to the Braves as saying, “We look forward to entering into the next phase of our discussions with you and Pinellas County to work hard and in earnest to try to reach terms on a deal before the end of 2015 and make this development a facility of which we all can be proud.”

It’s no secret the Braves have been looking for a new spring training home. Their deal at Disney’s Wide World of Sports expires in two years. So they’ve been seeking and/or weighing potential offers from other interested parties in Florida over the last several months. This is the first one, however, that has had any specifics attached to it.

On an unrelated note, the Braves announced Tuesday that “2016 A-List Memberships are on sale now. The A-List guarantees the best seats at the lowest prices for the final season at Turner Field and beyond.” A-List members receiver priority for seating at the new stadium in 2017.

Maybe it’s just me but I’m not seeing the rush to secure priority seating right now.

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BradleyBreeze
BradleyBreeze

Maybe they(Brave's Exec's) can convince Cobb County taxpayers to foot the bill for a couple good Free Agent pitchers!Those clowns in upper level Brave's Management could probably sell Ice to Eskimo's!

MackJones66
MackJones66

Thank you to the citizens of Cobb County.


maxman2660
maxman2660

what was that W C fields once said about a sucker being born every minute?

chasjons
chasjons

Braves had to move away from that dump down at Turner Field.  Sure, the structure of the stadium is fine, but the location is horrendous in terms of generating revenue.  It was a 50 year experiment that did not pan out.     I have never been to the Orlando complex , but my guess is the same rings true in terms of structure and location.  Spring training facilities need to be on the coast line, not central Florida.  Get over the Braves current losing ways.  Did none of you live in Atlanta in the 70's and 80's? You have to break down before you can build up.  Things are looking up you Debbie Downers! 

FineousMcDirtyBird
FineousMcDirtyBird

@chasjons  Not to let the facts ruin a good story but the Disney Wide World of Sports facility is located next to the Swan & Dolphin Resort on the Disney complex. Not only is it a well maintained and beautiful facility, it's also practically at the center of the largest tourist attraction in all of Florida. Also, why exactly should spring training facilities only be on the coast line? Is there a lot of coast line in the Cactus League? Is this another one of those idiotic unwritten rules like not bunting to break up a no-hitter? Finally, how does a near billion dollar landfill refurbishment on the Redneck Riviera improve anything about this pitiful, panhandling organization? 

AnsweredTHIS
AnsweredTHIS

@chasjons

"Sure, the structure of the stadium is fine, but the location is horrendous in terms of generating revenue. "

For people like you who dont have a clue...

For 20 + years when they put a good product on the field the location was just fine generating revenue. I am so happy they are moving to Cobb so you can have exactly what you want...the Triple A Cobb Braves! Congrats

DawgDadII
DawgDadII

Just part of the Grand Plan, Braves will need big Spring Training complex to have room for the wealth of pitching prospects emerging from the system in 2017 and beyond. The other tenant team will have all the hitters, but Braves will have plenty of "currency", you know, three Tommy Johns each for their 30-year old rookie and rule 5 guys.

miked91
miked91

The land fill will be perfect for the garbage they put on the field.I dont see any hope for the Braves anytime soon they need major upgrades on offense.Nevertheless the pitching they recieved in the trades are nothing to write home about.Terrible!

gordonguy
gordonguy

Yes, the "29 story Applebee's" guy has gotten old (don't even bother to read them anymore).  But you know what's gotten even older?  It's the AJC's incessant and unrelenting attacks on the Braves because of their move to Cobb County.  It's a done deal.  Get over it.  You'll be at the ball park reporting on the Braves when they move there.  You're not going to win a Pulitzer Prize (especially you, Jeff Schultz) so quit trying to dig up dirt and find ways to make them sound nefarious.  You know, that Mercedes-Benz Home Depot Monument to Arthur Blank is going to cost the city of Atlanta a whole lot more money than SunTrust Park.


We readers know you don't like the deal.  No need to continue to beat us over the head with it. 

FineousMcDirtyBird
FineousMcDirtyBird

@gordonguy  That monument to Arthur Blank is costing him $1.2 billion to the city's $400 million (Cobb's $400 million to the Braves $300). It's also a versatile year-round stadium that will actually generate revenue. But sure, comparing it to Sun Trust Park, which will be an empty hole in the ground for half the year surrounded by a mini-mall, makes a lot of sense. People will definitely flock to the Cheesecake Factory (or whatever idiot chain restaurant they have) October to March. 

Ersatz
Ersatz

While the barves are building a historically huge losing season on the field, the 29-story Applebee's in barvesworld has been adept at building sizzling dinners of unlimited brewskis, tater skins, and babyback ribs, all paid in full by cobb taxpayers.  To celebrate building barves baseball on the best landfills in America, the barves front office hogs and cobb political fat cats are signaling to the bartender to keep those scotch whiskeys sliding down the bar while they light $500 cigars with $100 bills from cobb taxpayer coffers, and slide suitcases stuffed with cobb taxpayer cash under the table, during every single barves shutout loss.

Eldirte
Eldirte

Welfare for Billionaires and soulless corporations. Yet many people can work 40+ hours a week and still can't afford basic necessities. I think the politicians should.be voted.out

Charles Douglas Edwards
Charles Douglas Edwards

The Atlanta Braves are owned 100% by Liberty Media  ! ! !


Liberty Media is located in Douglas County, Colorado.


Douglas County,Colorado is ranked in the top ten counties in the United States of America for medium income for it's residents.

There are many, many, many counties in the United States of America.


They rank #1 for counties West of the beautiful, majestic and  and mighty Mississippi River.


They are a rich, rich, rich  $$$ county.


Most of the profits for the Atlanta Braves baseball franchise will end up in Douglas County Colorado and taxes going to the State of Colorado Department of Revenues.

58Supersports
58Supersports

Must agree with you Jeff... you are right on.

woodstock30189
woodstock30189

The complex would be built on an old landfill.


What else needs to be said. 

Stinger2
Stinger2

Why give all of your opponents an who actually have HR hitters more advantage by making the fences shorter distance?

Would be like shooting ourselves in the foot unless we get some HR hittersin the Braves lineup. 

candlin14
candlin14

I hope the dimensions will be 300 FT down the lines, 350 in the gaps and 375 dead center. That is the only way for our professional baseball team to act like they have professional power. We are one pathetic franchise right now.

Can'o'corn
Can'o'corn

the irony that this team would be playing in a landfill is too much 

BTC
BTC

It's gonna be HUGE!

John Galt 47
John Galt 47

But the real question is how tall will the Applebee's be at the new spring training facility? Ersatz?

joedavis
joedavis

After watching this power-challenged squad, I hope the outfield fences at the new parks are at middle school depth. Maybe then Markakis can reach double figures.