Braves may have something special in Manny Banuelos

Braves starter Manny Banuelos threw a two-hit shut out in his major league debut before having to leave with cramping and dehydration. (AP Photo/John Bazemore)

Braves starter Manny Banuelos threw a two-hit shut out in his major league debut before having to leave with cramping and dehydration. (AP Photo/John Bazemore)

Braves starter Manny Banuelos threw a two-hit shut out in his major league debut before having to leave with cramping and dehydration. (AP Photo/John Bazemore)

While the Braves are losing series, struggling just to get back to .500 and projecting little hope of making the playoffs, they can remember what happened Thursday night as a positive sign for the future — not just their own but pitcher Manny Banuelos’.

Banuelos, the third Braves’ pitcher to make his major league debut this season (Williams Perez, Matt Wisler) and the fourth to make his first start (Mike Foltynewicz), smothered the Washington Nationals Thursday night at Turner Field. He threw a two-hit shutout for 5 2/3 innings and had seven strikeouts until being forced to leave with dehydration and cramping in his left calf and fingers, which led him to hit two batters in the sixth.

Banuelos didn’t get the decision in the 2-1 win over Washington but he was the story. The Braves not only won in his debut, they did so with a 24-year-old rookie beating Max Scherzer, one of the game’s best pitchers, who fell to 9-6 despite an ERA of 1.82 and striking out nine.

“He locked up with one of the best pitchers in the game and he matched him pitched for pitch,” Braves manager Fredi Gonzalez said.

Banuelos, a native of Mexico, was acquired from the New York Yankees in January in the David Carpenter trade. He missed the 2013 season after Tommy John surgery, came back last season and has been strong this year with Triple A Gwinnett (6-2, 2.29).

“I’ve been waiting for this moment for years and years,” Banuelos said “Then I get an injury and all that, but thank God I made it.”

He only needs to resolve this dehydration issue. He said he “drank a lot of fluids today and yesterday” because the same thing happened to him in a start two weeks ago.

“We knew he was a sweater. That what our reports said,” Gonzalez said.

I believe that’s the first time I’ve heard that in a post-game interview.

Water and Gatorade should cure him.

It’s one of the easier problems that the Braves have to fix.

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34 comments
Stnicholaus
Stnicholaus

Manny thinks you're special too,Jeff. 

Quackmeyer
Quackmeyer

"We knew he was a sweater"!   Not even ex Braves manager Eddie Haas would have said that!  Somewhere Skip, Ernie & Pete are laughing their as_es off.

RickinWarnerRobins
RickinWarnerRobins

It was just one game, folks...let the kid pitch several games before we all jump on the "he's a phenom" bandwagon.  How many times have we as Braves fans been disappointed by a player who has one single good game? 

slydawg
slydawg

Some of these young arms need to go to the bullpen and they may be better off. If Manny has dehydration issues, solve them making him a relief pitcher. He's already 24 years old. The same with Folty; instead of waiting on a 23 year old to get control over his pitches, make him pitch in relief to make up for a less than stellar bullpen.

LEWWHEEL
LEWWHEEL

The impressive performances of Banuelos, and Wisler might encourage Foltynewicz efforts in controlling his pitches, He might  realize that he could spend the remainder of the year at AAA bumped down in the depth chart.

FSUNole
FSUNole

wtg Manny..i'm rooting for you bud

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MaybeMaybeNot
MaybeMaybeNot

I remember all the excitement with first Tommy Hanson and then Kris Medlen.  They were both supposed to be the next great ones too......

kerryb
kerryb

Kris Medlin was not the same caliber pitcher these guys coming up now are.

slydawg
slydawg

If I can remember correctly, both Beachy and Medlin were surprises. They both surpassed Mike Minor, who was the promised one. The multiple TJ surgeries is what hurt them. But kerryb is right, Medlin was not of the same caliber; He just outworked all the "talented" ones.

Wilbo
Wilbo

Beachy, sweetheart, this is what a lot of you don't seem to understand... I mean are you TOTALLY devoid of historical perspective on this team?


The Braves got swept in their first playoff appearance in 1969.
Swept again in their second playoff appearance in 1982.
Blew the World Series when they had it won in 1991. (thanks, Coxie, you useless tird)
Blew the NLCS they should have won in 1993. 
Had a completely unBraves like championship in 1995.
Have blown more postseason opportunities for excellence since then than you can count!
This team has flat out SUCKED in the postseason WHEN IT COUNTS. That is the 1 key fact about the Atlanta Braves, that every one of you peedunky fans need to hear over and over and over and over til you get it.
They are a complete embarrassment to the city the state, the SE, to American sports. When the chips are down, you can count on ONE thing from the Atlant Braves - THEY WILL COLLAPSE UNDER PRESSURE! They have a history of choking like sick dogs no other team in any sport comes close to.
So, who gives a rat's anus if some young pitcher looks pretty good for a game or 2 or 3 or 10!? 
We've had a bushel of alleged young "stars" these dumbarse bloggers have made out to be blossoming allstars who haven't turned out to be SQUAT, and the legacy of disgusting, cowardly failure lives on for the Atlanta Braves.
Peepee on the Atlanta Braves. (and the fools who pretend they are more than they are)

kerryb
kerryb

It always amazes me that when things are looking bright for the future you always have negative ninnies like this. The past has absolutely nothing to do with the future in this situation. Different man running the organization now that has a history of knowing what's he's doing. Are you really dumb enough to think that 1993 has anything to do with now and beyond? You know a lot of those players are 45 years and older and don't play baseball anymore don't you?

Wilbo
Wilbo

@kerryb The germans kicked the holy freakin' shi'ite outta the French at every engagement between them in WWII. The Vietnamese beat the French like bad dogs non-stop from 1946 'til 1954. None of the same French soldiers in those 2 conflicts. You don't have to have the same individuals wearing your uniform to maintain the same legacy of conducting yourself like cowardly losers! The French are just cowardly wind sucking dogs. The Braves are the same cowardly chokers as they were in 


1991

1993

1996

1997

1998

1999

2001 etc ad-freakin-infinitum


You don't have to have the same people to have the same legacy of putrid failure. The Braves suck and have sucked equally w MANY different poohbutt suckahs wearing their uniform! It doesn't matter if the actual players are the same if the result is the same.


The Braves have posted EXACTLY the same result 20 something years now - actually way more than that - they choke like sick dogs when the chips are down. That they have been able to continue this disgusting legacy of cowardly flopping is made WAY WAY WAY WAY worse that they have been able to suck so bad, wilt so completely, when the big prize was in sight, makes it even more pathetic - not less.

LegalBeagle3
LegalBeagle3

@Wilbo @Mr. Negative LOL! Love the post! I would add that they only managed to back into the one championship bc another team "out-Bravesed" them lol!!  In fact, I remember a specific moment (I think in game one) when otherwise-superhuman-defensive shortstop Omar Vizquel botched a sure double play ball, allowing the only run to score.  Otherwise, we'd surely be staring down the barrel of an 0-15,

reckingball
reckingball

First bad start that Manny B. has,......... JS will be telling us about what a bad trade it was to give up Carpenter.

reckingball
reckingball

Great win last night. Great pitching performance. Great situational  hitting by Maybin. Great call by CB Bucknor.

Great strategical moves by Fredi Gonzalez.

BruceNFairfax
BruceNFairfax

How can the training staff not be pouring Gatorade and other quenching supplements into him before/after bullpen warm up and between innings? Seems everyone knew it was a problem. ... Strange.

Buckhead Vol
Buckhead Vol

I like Manny.  Tough and pitched well.  He and the other 3 rooks have potential.  I feel better about the future, but would like for us to get a decent manager.  


(I like that he hit 2 Nats too!!!) 


Fast Fredi needs to go........

BravesFanInNashville
BravesFanInNashville

@Buckhead Vol yeah I just don't understand how the Braves front office thinks Fredi is the right guy to lead this team.  He's a very nice man but I wish he was a base coach and not calling the shots..  

USrover
USrover

Kelvin.  I agree with your observation.  Let's wait until September rolls around and see the stats at that time, which will give a clearer picture. A couple wins are great but the long range generally tells the story.  I wish these new pitchers (and players) all the best.  At least we have all the players now giving that needed 100% effort.  Go Braves.

ComaToes
ComaToes

I'm betting he will have to have TJ surgery within a year.  That's the usual route of a promising Braves pitcher.

cloudodust
cloudodust

Reminds me of the commercial where a kid applying for an over the road trucking job is told by his prospective boss, (to paraphrase) 'Kid, anybody can drive one of these rigs coast to coast, but not everyone can back it into (pointing out a narrow dock slot) a tiny hole.' Time will tell but last night was a good night for the first timer... 

walk711
walk711

sweater? at least not a screamer

RangeRover
RangeRover

Frankly, this is not a legitimate playoff team, especially saddled with the worst manager in baseball.  So, it's time to determine who will be the starting five opening day here in Cobb County.

Trade Teheran to a contender at the deadline (He's another Jair Jurrjens), definitely keep Miller and probably Wood, and start running the pitching prospects out there every day and work toward the next Glavine, Smoltz, Avery and Pete Smith as we had in 1990-1991 and then supplement those four with a cagy, inning eating veteran (Charlie Leibrandt).

Lastly, get a bonafide Major League Manager, please, and cease with this nonsense...by telling Cox he had his opportunities (and blew several like his offspring, Gonzalez) and stay away from the decision making.

DrPhill
DrPhill

A positive aspect of this team's leadership is experimentation and flexibility. These qualities been missing in previous years, as evidenced by the continued struggles of Uggla and the player previously known as BJ.

PalmBeachFalcon
PalmBeachFalcon

Also fun to see the haters get their panties in a wad when positive things happen to the Braves.  Banuelos was a nice get from the Yankees, huh Wilbo???

Wilbo
Wilbo

One game does not a pitcher make. Idiot.

BravesFanInNashville
BravesFanInNashville

@Wilbo While that's true this kid looks like the real deal and when the other team you traded with releases the player you traded away during the first season it doesn't make it a bad trade either.  


So many of you have been all over Hart for trading David Carpenter and Shreve.  Yes Shreve has done a nice job for NY but now the trade is down to Shreve for Banuelos since Carpenter is gone.  I've got a hunch this trade is going to look really really good for the Braves for a long time. 


How bright would the Braves future be right now if they had Heyward and Justin Upton about to leave for free agency and no Shelby Miller, Wisler, Baneulos, Jace Peterson, and now Cameron Maybin, not to mention Tyrell Jenkins , Max Fried, Mallex Smith, Foltynewicz and the new draft pick they got from San Deigo?


The Braves can still bid on Heyward and Justin Upton if they want to.  They probably won't go as high as the Yankees, Dodgers, Red Sox , Tigers , Rangers or Angels for them but they would have lost them if they were outbid anyway.


Yes trading Kimbrel was hard but not as hard when you consider what a great job Grilli has done in the ninth inning.  He's got two more saves then Kimbrel so far and a lower ERA.


Gattis is having a nice year at the plate for Houston as mostly a DH.  He's playing a little LF now but he's not a full time outfielder so he wasn't a great fit in Atlanta.  Besides if they kept him they wouldn't have signed AJ.  I have a feeling Folty is going to turn out to be a really good player for the Braves too.


I personally will take the hope of these really talented young players over the known of Heyward, Gattis, Kimbrel and the Uptons who we lost the division with by 17 games last year in a total collapse.  I just don't see this team of kids doing that.  They proved the last two games they are fighters and will only get better as they learn.


We will see more of the fruits of Harts trades at this trade deadline and during the offseason because the Braves are now set up to take on desirable salary through trades or free agency.  Perfect example is eating Arroyo's salary for Toussaint.  That might turn out to be a really really good idea.  It sure beats signing the Aaron Harang's who started of well and now has lost a bunch of games and is on the DL. or Ervin Santana for $13 Milllion for one season and he's gone.  At least for the $10 Million on Arroyo we have Toussaint for 6 years of service..  

PalmBeachFalcon
PalmBeachFalcon

Love seeing these new arms come in and compete. How John Hart has doubters, I'll never know. Successes of Perez, Wisler, and Banuelos make it easier to justify trading our "#1" starter.

Kelvin
Kelvin

Too small of a sample to call them successes. We will know in about 3 years. Fans, sports talk radio hosts, and local reporters are the kings of hyperbolic statements.