Post-Ferry era starts with 2 picks, 2 trades and … Tim Hardaway Jr.?

Tim Hardaway Jr., playing for New York, scored 23 points in a late-season game against the Hawks (Photo by Getty Images)

Tim Hardaway Jr., playing for New York, scored 23 points in a late-season game against the Hawks (Photo by Getty Images)

Tim Hardaway Jr., playing for New York, scored 23 points in a late-season game against the Hawks (Photo by Getty Images)

New Hawks owner Tony Ressler said Thursday that he chose not to keep Danny Ferry as general manager in part because he felt comfortable with the organizational structure and the three decision-makers who ran things during Ferry’s purgatory: coach Mike Budenholzer, assistant GM Wes Wilcox and CEO Steve Koonin.

“I came to the conclusion that this was a franchise that was starting a new chapter, and to start a new chapter with a new ownership, with a single voice, with clear direction and with stability and having what was working,” Ressler said in an interview with Atlanta Journal-Constitution editors and staff members. “What we saw working was Bud-Wes-Steve. That’s what we bought into and that’s what we liked.”

But Ressler left out of one thing: Ferry acquired most of the players and hired Budenholzer and Wilcox. The post-Ferry era officially started Thursday night in the draft and the results were … interesting.

They drafted 15th overall, took Kansas small forward Kelly Oubre, then traded him to Washington for the 19th pick and two future second-rounders. They drafted Notre Dame point guard Jerian Grant at 19th, then traded him to the New York Knicks for shooting guard Tim Hardaway, Jr.

So effectively, the Hawks made four moves that started with the 15th pick in the draft and ended with a shooting guard who likely will come off the bench and is entering the final year of his contract.

Twitter was confused.

Twitter was angry.

Twitter wanted more for this piece of the Joe Johnson trade.

I’m not ready to kill the Hawks over this decision yet. Here’s my read on this first Budenholzer/Wilcox production:

• The Hawks are in win-now mode. They didn’t want or need another project to develop. They did not believe a player available to them in this draft could have an immediate impact next season.

• Budenholzer knew the Hawks needed to improve bench scoring. You saw what happened in the postseason when defenses smothered Kyle Korver and he tired. They also needed an early season insurance policy in case Korver is slow to come back from ankle ligament surgery.

• Budenholzer and Wilcox likely still want to add some size, but that could come in free agency.

Hardaway averaged 11.5 points in 70 games (30 starts) in his second season but he scored 23 in a late-season game against the Hawks and 25 two nights later against Detroit.

This could work out for the Hawks.

(For more on Ressler’s first full day as owner and why Hawks’ fans should feel good that he has no desire to be center stage, click here.)

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AlwaysReady
AlwaysReady

New Hawks owner Tony Ressler has no desire to be center stage 

like Antsy Arthur Blank of the Falcons.

JAS0N
JAS0N

"I came to the conclusion that this was a franchise that was starting a new chapter"

He's right.  The Hawks just had one of their most successful seasons of all time, so the franchise definitely needs a fresh start.  We should totally start from scratch.  I suggest a total overhaul of the team.  Lets get rid of the general manager.  Next, lets remove the best players.  Hey, we're starting a new chapter!

RangeRover
RangeRover

From my perspective their are two winners in this:  me and Danny Ferry

As for me, this perpetual, unabashed stupidity by this unwaveringly moribund, pathetic franchise makes it easy for me not to waste one more penny after this spineless, politically correct crucifixion of Danny Ferry.

As for Ferry, he gets to leave this crime scene behind with a pocket full of money to move on to a better city and better opportunity.

What was the Hawks record from February/March on?  What about the .500 record in the playoffs including an utter no-show in their final, must win game?  And just off the heels of this pathetic coaching performance and leadership they reward this abysmal work from their just 2nd year coach by naming him their President?

I will have a good, old belly laugh at the end of next season...

DawgHawkFalconFan
DawgHawkFalconFan

I agree completely that the Hawks do not need another project. I think we resign DMC and Millsap. I think Hardaway will contribute more than anybody we could have gotten in the draft (I was hoping for Dekker, but know many disagree on him). Also don't forget we now have new ownership with money to spend. Also attendance will be up along with other revenue streams. We will add a big FA signing.

devounknown1000
devounknown1000

STARTER


TEAGUE, KORVER, CARROLL, HORFORD, ALRIDGE


BENCH


SCHRODER, HARDAWAY, THADO, SCOTT, MOOSE


JENKINS, MACK, BAZEMORE, TAVAR


GO HAWKS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Dirtyb8
Dirtyb8

@devounknown1000 Who is Thado? Is that another person we signed recently that nobody in this earth have heard about?

devounknown1000
devounknown1000

CARROLL 5 YEAR 45MILL IS A SOLID OFFER


ALDRIDGE 4 YEAR 70 MILL IS A SOLID OFFER


GO HAWKS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

devounknown1000
devounknown1000

The Hawks went thru so much trying to trade Joe Johnson and get the Nets top lottery pick and Coach / GM Bud traded back and then turn around and traded the pick for Hardaway, LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Coach Bud have done a wonderful job the first 2years of Coaching I just hope this GM stuff don't mess up the entire movement, I believe Grant Hill would have been the best thing for Hawks only if Coach Bud will listen, at the end of day if there is any one who could track Superstars to come play for Hawks it's Grant Hill.


This why the Hawks must make a major step in letting Grant Hill bring in Aldridge to come play for Hawks to play beside Horford.


GO HAWKS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



UGA76
UGA76

The professional sports team in this town had one very good GM and the political correct crowd got him fired.  Mark my words, this team has peaked and is headed back to irrelevance. 

Look here is the deal, it does not matter what they do. Seriously because they can not take the same team and beat Cleveland in 7 even with Hardaway.


They can sign Millsap and Carroll both it will not matter.


And I know there is not one person out there who believes they could.


So given what just happened, what makes you think they actually know what they are doing?


And don't give me the old "Give them the benefit of the doubt". The answer to that is "NO".


I do not have another 40 years in my life time to wait till they make the finals again. Do you?


So unless they plain to sign Carroll and blow 100 million on Aldridge or Marc Gasol then the only thing that would impress me is for them to get on their knees and beg Ferry to come back.


Other than that, guess what?


Same old Hawks.  

Joe Wike
Joe Wike

I love Ferry and what he did here in a real short time. It's a shame to see him take the fall for what was a disgraceful ownership of the Atlanta Hawks team. I have a real bad feeling that this new ownership did the wrong thing letting him walk when according to investigations, he did no wrong...especially since he was backed by quite a few afluent blacks. Ferry cleaned house when he got here and I just hope the current decision makers can build on what he has done. My thoughts on trading for Hardaway are simple...coach Bud's system of basketball and teaching will cause the young fellow to thrive. So I am not sure why so many on here are so quick to bash the trade. If Bud likes Timmy then that's good enough for me.to like the trade. I am probably one of the ones in the Minority here but I could really care less if management signs both Carroll and Millsap to long term deals...they are good players, but as was shown in the ECF...only average when facing the leagues best...and thats if you call Shumpert, Smith, Thompson and Mozgov the leagues best. Personally, I feel we need an upgrade over at least one of those two. I would not sign a Gasol or an Aldridge...I would go after a Monroe or someone morw along those lines. I still want youth.

PeachtreeBart
PeachtreeBart

Ferry can't get out on the court and stop Lebron either, chief.   And having Gasol or Aldridge won't work unless the Hawks can stay healthy through the playoffs and Bud can use his bench more wisely.

AnsweredTHIS
AnsweredTHIS

For all this whining about DF can someone please tell me how many points he averaged last year? How many boards he pull down? How many assist did he have? With that said I did not want to see him go but since he is lets make the best of it! Not sure what this draft was all about but if TH2 comes here and becomes a player like Carroll did then all of naysayers can pipe down. If he does not I did not see any of the picks that they did have getting ANY quality minutes...Can someone say John Jenkins? How long has he been on the bench!? And one last thing for all of the sports networks that slammed us for this years draft...were these the same networks who started the season slamming us ( 38 win maybe 42 win team) slammed us in the playoffs ( no way they get to the ECF) and slammed us because we got beat by Cleveland and the refs...do your thing Bud! I stay TRUE to my team!

Big Wally
Big Wally

@AnsweredTHIS His drafting yes, has been average at best.  Getting rid of Joe Johnson, Josh Smith, Marvin Williams, chasing off Larry Drew, getting Milsap, Carroll, resigning Korver etc. were pretty good accomplishments you'd have to admit.

hawkfan2974
hawkfan2974

@AnsweredTHIS Let me ask you this, how many points did Red Auerbach average when he was with Boston? How many assists did he average or rebounds for that matter? A lot of intangibles go into winning and that includes the culture Ferrry's developed and the players and coach he brought in.  Whether you're a DF fan or not, I think to dismiss his contribution to what has happpend to the Hawks organization over the past 3 years is unfair.  Which leads me to the next question, if the Hawks do worse next year, who are you going to blame? 

GeorgeJetsen
GeorgeJetsen

Forget the trade, the real story is Ressler's early heat on Kasim Reed to majorly renovate,or replace Philips soon to keep him from exploring other options as the Braves did. Hard to believe that all ATL sports venues - none older than 20 years- could be replaced in the next 3 years. Guess that's what owners are expecting these days as their average franchise values approach $1B. One day this bubble will burst and things will get ugly for the owners, players, and industry.

DrGonzo
DrGonzo

@GeorgeJetsen Yeah this is getting out of hand. But honestly at this point, as long as its not Cobb taxpayers that have to pay for the new arena, I'm past caring. The Braves have exhausted all my goodwill towards sports teams at the moment.

midwaycva41
midwaycva41

Hey, AJC.  WHY do I have to go to Yahoo to learn who the Hawks drafted in the second round?  Why do you not care enough to post an article on the second round results?

Joe Wike
Joe Wike

Glad I saw this...I been wondering who if anybody they took later on in Rd 2.

CondoMan
CondoMan

My guess is Hardaway is an inexpensive buy.  Gives the Hawks room to sign both Millsap and Carroll.

candlin14
candlin14

@CondoMan


I would be willing to bet they dont even sign either one of these guys

Joe Wike
Joe Wike

I hope that's not the case.

Bogey
Bogey

The whole trade scenario doesn't excite anyone, as TH2 is a sub-par shooter and an atrocious defender.  However, he makes about the same or less than the 19 yr old draft pick they might have gotten.  Only reasonable picks at 15 were at PG and SF/PF, which the Hawks do not need.  We need more depth at SG (which if he improves,TH will provide) and at least 1 big to play some D and rebound (most pressing need). 


Look at recent history of the NBA, with few exceptions rookies don't become productive for at least 3 yrs.  Hawks' window to win is sooner/shorter than that.


They will go to FA to get the rebounds.



DrGonzo
DrGonzo

Well, if they can't make something happen in free agency, then I see this as a wasted draft. If all we pick up this offseason is Hardaway, even if we somehow keep Millsap and Carroll, then I consider that a failure. Guess we'll have to wait and see.

GwinnettFred
GwinnettFred

@DrGonzo  : I agree totally. You can't judge this until you see if the saving of a couple million cap money leads to the signing of a top flight free agent. The move has all the look of a free agency booster, so let's hope so!

DrGonzo
DrGonzo

@GwinnettFred @DrGonzo My fingers are crossed. But I just can't get the specter of past failures out of my mind. Marvin Williams over Chris Paul, never forget.

Kennyd_va
Kennyd_va

The Hawks didn't do well in the draft.... Overall grade "D"

Born2Buzz
Born2Buzz

Well, we all trusted in Danny Ferry since he turned the ship around and produced the best season in franchise history.  We would not have questioned these moves if it was him making the call.  

We will have to learn whether Bud and Wilcox have the same acumen.  They might but we don't know.

I like acquisition of Hardaway Jr.  The other picks were simply reaches.  How much input did Bud have in previous drafts?  Did he have a hand in the selection of Schroder and Muscala, who we all questioned but have turned out OK?


Time will tell.  Sure how last year wasn't the pinnacle for this franchise.

freezboy
freezboy

Exactly like you said Schultz...they do not want another building project on their roster and everyone left in the draft was just that...they will find the missing "PIECES"... FA and trades....get down tonight baby!!!

Chill
Chill

Per Espn - "The Hawks feel like they've created a culture and system that can bring out the best in any NBA player, and with Tim Hardaway, Jr., acquired from the Knicks as part of a three-way trade, they'll certainly have their hands full. They value length and proficiency on the wings. At 6-foot-6, Hardaway has plenty of the former, but he used it to little effect in New York, where he was a defensive train wreck. He finished 94th out of 100 qualified shooting guards in defensive plus-minus. About that shooting ... He dropped from 36.3 percent in his rookie season from beyond the arc to 34.2. He didn't exactly make up for it from mid-range, nor does he get the line at a good clip. The Hawks clearly see value -- he'll earn $1.3 million in 2015-16, less than the No. 15 pick would've earned -- and potential that will bolster their depth on the perimeter. With their pair of late second-round picks, the Hawks selected Eriksson, a big shooting guard out of Sweden with a smooth stroke who spent last season recovering from an ACL and meniscus tear, as well as Agravanis, a 20-year-old stretch big man from Greece."Thumbs Down -- Kevin Arnovitz


New GM Brass got cute. Where the Hell is Danny Ferry?!?

Big Wally
Big Wally

@Chill Didn't you hear, some of these bloggers are more concerned with a GM who has some type of 'filter' when reading scouting reports than a GM who can assemble a roster.

bfred
bfred

@Big Wally @Chill Then they should be very happy with the results of this draft, and take ownership of the team's performance in years to come.  At least that known monster Ferry is no longer around.

NewnanT-H
NewnanT-H

Not a fan of what the Hawks did yesterday should they stand pat. However, they added depth and depth helps when you're looking for a sign and trade. That's what I can only hope this sets up. They could look to LaMarcus Aldridge (1st choice) or Greg Monroe while using Hardaway Jr. or Bazemore as a sign and trade piece with Millsap. Getting Hardaway secures depth at the 2-guard with Korver, and at 34, there's no guarantee he can repeat the successes of 2014-15. You can now afford to dangle somebody with Millsap if you want to go get a big man. Hardaway is also a cheap piece with an expiring contract. GMs might like that. Personally, I think Hardaway Jr. is the piece they will dangle with Millsap for the right big man.


That being said. GO GET A BIG MAN!!! 


By the way, giving a draft grade right now is like grading a house builder after the foundation is poured. Kinda silly when you don't know what the final product is going to look like when completed. 

ErnestB
ErnestB

@NewnanT-H


Giving a draft grade right now is like grading a house builder after the foundation is poured. Kinda silly when you don't know what the final product is going to look like when completed. 


Great analogy!

candlin14
candlin14

I guess we want to go back to winning the 8th seed and losing in the first round...... Getting rid of Ferry will be the worst decision these idiots ever made. The guy knew what he was doing and for saying a black guy has African in him doesn't constitute a termination in my opinion. CMON ATL, if that remark hurt you, toughen it up a lil bit.

bfred
bfred

@candlin14 Actually, he said an African guy had some African in him.

DubWeb
DubWeb

but I do agree that Ferry was a casualty of war, hoping that the people he hired prove to be as savvy as he is.

DubWeb
DubWeb

initially, I felt the same way. but ultimately, it speaks to the availability of talent in the draft. At 15, the best player available was maybe Dekker.  Good player, but not a great player. Hardaway is proven and still has plenty of upside. Also, there are going to be post players available in free agency... 


So Hawk nation, let's not get too high or too low. Temper your expectations. Repeating last season's success is not very likely. By that I mean, it shouldn't be Eastern Conference champs or bust... Sustainability, good players and a good system... That's the plan. Regardless of the season's record, we were a 6 man and a shooter's touch away from beating BronBron & company... 


Lesson learned (hopefully) is not to take your foot off the gas in Feb/March. Keep the same rotations to keep consistent shooting, ball movement, etc... 

bfred
bfred

@DubWeb The draft today is a total crapshoot.  Marginal players are encouraged to come out after their freshman years, even with limited minutes and track records (e.g. Justise Winslow).  How are teams to evaluate based upon that?  Long gone are the days of watching Tim Duncan play four years.  No wonder drafts get so thin after the top 5 picks - no one has any idea how the players are going to develop.

MD3
MD3

ESPN and Bleacher Report both give the Hawks a "D" for their draft grade, and USA Today gave us a big fat "F"... New owners will quickly regret taking the cowards' way out and letting go of Danny Ferry. The one season of excellence was nice -- but mediocrity, here we come again!!

JimHalpert
JimHalpert

are you kidding me?


thanks, obama 

AtlantaSportsVictory
AtlantaSportsVictory

We went from the 15th pick to the 24th pick. ESPN is roasting us, gave us a D for the trade. Hardaway is HORRIBLE on defense. 


The most disappointing part is that, if we stay a winning team, then we aren't likely to pick in the 15th slot anytime soon. We needed to take advantage of the opportunity of getting some real talent, instead we got a no-d chucker who is about to get off his rookie deal. Just a total disaster from people in the Hawks organization who overthought the situation. Totally disappointing. Why are we so bad with our 1st round picks?????????


Somewhere, Danny Ferry is laughing. 

Jimmyliscious
Jimmyliscious

Dude plays no defense and Knicks were frustrated with his inconsistency. Boo

mr spanky
mr spanky

I think Hardaway Jr is ready to be a starter.  Korver will be coming off the bench now.

Wreck13
Wreck13

It is the Confederate Flag's fault.

Wilbo
Wilbo

@Wreck13 It's the American flag's fault! Just ask Minister Farrakhan.