Are Hawks getting Ray Allen? Odds site makes them favorites

It doesn’t qualify as a guarantee but one odds site says Hawks are favorite to sign Ray Allen. (Andy Lyons/Getty Images)

 

It doesn't qualify as a guarantee but one odds site says Hawks are favorite to sign Ray Allen. (Andy Lyons/Getty Images)

It doesn’t qualify as a guarantee but one odds site says Hawks are favorite to sign Ray Allen. (Andy Lyons/Getty Images)

The Hawks go into the All-Star break with the second-best record in the NBA at 43-11, trailing only Golden State (42-9), a team they beat last week. More importantly, they have a comfortable lead in the Eastern Conference over Toronto (6½ games), Chicago (9), Washington (10) and Cleveland (10½, but rising).

Notwithstanding blowing a game in Boston the other night, they have been a joy to watch. The on-court product has been a nice distraction from the off-court mess, where we’ve seen the excommunication of part-owner Bruce Levenson, the franchise going up for sale and the limbo status of general manager Danny Ferry.

The kids off the court just can’t play nice. If you missed it, I have a column on MyAJC.com on how individual agendas are still driving the circus bus off the court. Here’s a link that will get you there.

Back off the court, the NBA trade deadline is in six days and the Hawks are among the bidders for free agent three-point specialist Ray Allen, who has played on title teams in Boston and Miami. Actually, they are the favorites to sign Allen, according to the sports odds website, Vegas Insider, which has listed odds for nine teams on signing Allen and winning the NBA title.

Vegas Insider’s Tony Mejia has the Hawks as the favorite to sign Allen at 3-1 and third best to win the title at 7-1.

Here are the odds for the nine teams listed.

Team Signing Allen Winning Title
Hawks        3-1      7-1
Golden State 4-1      4-1
Cleveland    8-1      3-1
San Antonio 10-1      8-1
LA Clippers 15-1      20-1
Chicago     20-1      11-1
Memphis     20-1      12-1
Washington  25-1      40-1
Miami       40-1      150-1

Mejia has a nice breakdown on each team. Here’s what he writes about the Hawks:

Atlanta Hawks

Pros: The Hawks share the ball beautifully and seek out the open man, so getting the great looks Allen has become accustomed to wouldn’t be a problem. Although he likely wouldn’t share the floor with Kyle Korver too often, there would be late-game situations where he’d share the floor with the guy who has replaced him as the league’s deadliest shooter. That can’t hurt. He’d instantly provide a championship pedigree to a contender that doesn’t have anyone on the roster that has reached the Finals.

Cons: Once Thabo Sefolosha returns from his calf injury, Allen would be even more of a situational player, since head coach Mike Budenholzer would have another key option on the wing beyond starters Korver and DeMarre Carroll. Of course, at this stage of his career, that wouldn’t be such a bad thing.

Sportsbook.ag NBA title odds: +700 (7-to-1), currently third-best.

Odds Allen signs: Trading first-round selection Adreian Payne to Minnesota for a future first-rounder opened a roster spot that Allen would fill nicely. Considering what a strong fit this is from a style of play standpoint, the Hawks are VI’s favorite to land his services. 3-to-1.

For the entire story, click here.

Thoughts on this? Do the Hawks need Allen, or another big man, both or neither?

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28 comments
itsslomotionbaby
itsslomotionbaby

I also hear andre blanche is out there also, he is somebody that can be had for a payday candybar.this guy was crazy atheletic like on the scale of a Deandre jordan

HotDawg
HotDawg

He's a free agent? 

What does a trade deadline have to do with a free agent?

And how have they done since trading one of their guys (Payne) for a draft pick? Just asking. Sometimes it's not good to mess with the chemistry that is getting you there.

Was Payne an end of the bench player?

SeanLB
SeanLB

@HotDawg Unless I'm mistaken, Payne had recently joined the team after working in the D-League, so I don't believe he was really a part of any chemistry we've witnessed.  

itsslomotionbaby
itsslomotionbaby

brook lopez, javel McGhee are out there but at what price?

DS
DS

Thoughts on this? Do the Hawks need Allen, or another big man, both or neither?

I couldn't answer this without knowing whether Allen, or another big man, is in really great shape and can play at the same high energy level as the rest of the Hawks roster, both on offense and defense. I'm skeptical that Allen can, because of his age and how long he's been out of the game.

If we get another player, he had better have the high energy level, quickness and stamina of a Tasmanian devil, otherwise he won't fit in with the Hawks roster and style of play.

Sloan
Sloan

Ray Allen would be a nice piece to add, but the one glaring weakness I see with the Hawks is the lack of a true big man from a defensive perspective. Allen won't help in that regard obviously. In two of the Hawks most recent losses they had difficulty stopping Anthony Davis of New Orleans and Jared Sullinger of the Boston. Unfortunately, its not as easy to find an effective big man as it is to find an aging three point bomber like Allen looking to sign a late season contract.


The Hawks did look very much like the old Hawks at Boston. For the first time this season it gave me pause as I watched them blow a double digit lead to an inferior opponent. Teague was absolutely awful in the 4th quarter, and no one could hit a shot coming down the stretch when we needed it. I hope that game was truly an aberration and not a sign that the Hawks have been playing way over their heads and are coming back down to Earth!

Remarkable3
Remarkable3

The hawks need something or someone.  I agree that they, " looked very much like the old Hawks against Boston."

atlfanman
atlfanman

Don't know if Ray Allen will come here but it would be nice to get him just to keep him away from a competitor. Count me in on the need of a big man. Very surprised no one has mentioned trying to talk Jermaine O'Neal out of retirement to help the Hawks. Even at an old age, O'Neal would help with rebounding and scoring in the paint. And the Hawks would not have to trade anything to get him.

PeachtreeBart
PeachtreeBart

The Hawks looked very much like the old Hawks against Boston.  To me, they need some help on the boards and in the middle.  The bigs look tired to me.   I

joeintucker
joeintucker

The only reason to acquire someone would be that we could put him on our bench and not allow a competitor to have him. There is no reason to upset the chemistry of the BEST TEAM IN THE NBA!!

spinner5576
spinner5576

i say no they would,nt because we have already clead a roster spot for him cleveland will not clear a roster spot for him so take that and smoke it

km42
km42

I still say Ray won't go away from competing against LeBron.  For him to come here, we would have to pay more than anyone else.

Ray would help alot, swapping minutes with KK. 

BravoDawg
BravoDawg

No to Ray!  Mack can do the same thing when healthy, dont need no old dinosaur. Need a big that play D, rebound, & pass

Wilbo
Wilbo

@BravoDawg Hey, what you got against old men? This is Atlanta pro sports, don't you understand that?

HLx3
HLx3

FORGET ABOUT RAY ALLEN!!!!!!


The HAWKS need to get BROOK LOPEZ from the Nets. Lopez is a 7 footer true center who can protect the paint, shoot and rebound. He's exactly what the HAWKS need right now for a deep run into the playoffs. The greatest part of all this is that he wants to leave the Brooklyn Nets ASAP.


GET BROOK LOPEZ!!!!!


Get Lopez and we will make it to the Finals for certain. 

km42
km42

@HLx3 You wanting to give Brooklyn's pick back?  I say let them continue to suffer with that roster.  Billy King has no clue to what he's doing.

patriotdog
patriotdog

Schultzie, nice article. Now, about the Ferry article. Perhaps I'm missing something, fill me in if that's the case.

It seems to me that Ferry's reading of a racist letter that was written by someone else makes him no more a racist

than I would be if we are discussing the Civil Rights era and I read to you a 60s campaign speech by George Wallace.

The words were not his own, he was reading the words of another.

And yes, Mike Gearon is a backstabbing, smug and spineless member of the lucky sperm club, who would doubtless struggle to afford a ticket had he not been born into the correct family.

The Hawks are a fun to watch, well coached team which was built expertly by Danny Ferry. That he is being unfairly labeled a racist is ridiculous in the extreme, that you and Bradley have been duped into this train of thought by a scheming train wreck of an ownership group is embarrassing.

Again, if I'm missing some point in this argument please explain it to me. I just fail to see how one man simply reading the words of another man can cause anyone to think the two men are of like mind.

Remarkable3
Remarkable3

@patriotdog

I agree but it seems that Schultz doesn't or wont see it that way. I understand that the ownership is a bunch of idiots but you would think that an AJC Sports writer would see things clearer.

moboman
moboman

Agree on the rather us than Cleveland get him.  Big man wouldn't hurt as well.  Unless Pero starts hitting his shots again, he's not too much help off the bench.

CowbellHell
CowbellHell

Please stop with the rim protector crap people...the team is 42-11 for christs sake!  I feel in a 7 game series we will expose the big teams by bringing the centers out on the perimeter.  Memphis will not be able to guard our shooters in a series...Get Ray Ray

David McCallum
David McCallum

@CowbellHell I know the win column is what's important now but this team has a serious problem with it's rebounding and that can't be overlooked or ignored.

Addy
Addy

Need a big time rim protector here more than a past his prime sharp shooter.

crackbaby
crackbaby

Not a fan of signing an over the hill veteran who doesn't rebound and is average (at best) defensively.  Hawks need a big guy who can crash the boards, defend, hit the mid range jumper and run the court.


Is the 2 guard the key to post season success for this team?  can't see it

Wilbo
Wilbo

Ray Allen is only 40. If the Hawks are truly going to honor a fine Atlanta pro sports tradition, they need to find somebody closer to 50. Does Ray Allen not have an older brother or an uncle?

BeastOPS
BeastOPS

The only pro I see in signing Allen is that it would keep him from signing with Cleveland.  Him signing with Cleveland would make them even that much harder to beat come playoff time.  If he's willing to take a reduced "situational" role on the bench behind Korver (and eventually Thabo), then sure, do it.

drmaryb
drmaryb

REBOUND!


The Hawks need some help on the boards too.

itsslomotionbaby
itsslomotionbaby

I feel like if the hawks need another sharpshooter, I feel they could just simply groom john Jenkins by giving him 3 shots a game and sit him.but by all means we need somebody in here that is atheletic.if we could get somebody like a javel McGhee I would sleep a lot easier.