There goes Evan Gattis, as Braves take another big hit

Evan Gattis is one of three everyday players lost from Braves’ everyday lineup. (Curtis Compton, AJC)

You can kiss that home run -- and Evan Gattis -- goodbye, Braves fans. (Curtis Compton, AJC)

You can kiss that home run — and Evan Gattis — goodbye, Braves fans. (Curtis Compton, AJC)

Well, look at it this way: The Braves are bound to have a number of discount and family nights at Turner Field next season.

There’s goes Evan Gattis. He follows the same worn path out of town as Jason Heyward and Justin Upton. After trading the good two-thirds of his starting outfield, Braves president John Hart completed — I’m assuming — his radical makeover of the team’s every day lineup Wednesday by dealing catcher/outfielder Evan Gattis to the Houston Astros for (… wait for it …) prospects.

This is another trade for the future. And by future I don’t mean next season. Well, Freddie Freeman will still be there, as will some Andrelton Simmons and some pretty good starting pitchers and a great closer. But don’t set the bar too high on wins, or runs, because you might be disappointed.

The Braves’ have relatively been stripped down as part of the organization’s post-Frank Wren rebuilding project. They are now without their Nos. 1, 3 and 5 (Upton, Gattis, Heyward) home run hitters from the 2014 season, their Nos. 1, 3 and 5 (Upton, Heyward, Gattis) RBI men from last year, and their Nos. 2, 3, and 4 (Upton, Gattis, Heyward) OPS players from a year ago. (OPS is a combination of on-base and slugging percentage.)

Recapping the winter:

• Gattis, who was tentatively projected as the starting left fielder with rookie Christian Bethancourt taking over as catcher, will go to Houston for three prospects, according to our David O’Brien. The Braves haven’t confirmed the return but they reportedly will receive three prospects, including third baseman Rio Ruiz and pitcher Gattis was a fan favorite because of his power and his meteoric rise from oblivion.

• Heyward, the starting right fielder, was dealt with reliever Jordan Walden to St. Louis, for young starting pitcher Shelby Miller. Miller may wind up being a nice member of the rotation but the Braves sacrificed their best all-round player to get him, believing Heyward couldn’t be re-signed after the 2015 season.

• Upton, the starting left fielder and best home run and RBI man (29, 102), also was traded because Hart was convinced the player couldn’t be re-signed in free agency. He went to San Diego for a package of players — the most noteworthy being pitcher Max Fried, who’s coming off Tommy John surgery.

The Heyward and Upton trades were made for money reasons. The Gattis trade was made because he just didn’t fit anywhere and he had some value on the trade market.

Open to debate is whether Hart should have been able to get more in trade than he did.

What’s not open for debate is that the Braves have taken a massive hit in this rebuilding effort.


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Mery Eva
Mery Eva


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RON BOONE
RON BOONE

Where did this IDIT hart come from, besides TV ? He is NUTS, But scherholtz is THEB IGGEST PROBLEM Braves have, yet he is still here, WHY? He is TOO L Does NOT care about FANS and knows nothing except collecting a IG FAT PAYCECK, which h DOES NOT DESERE, minimum wage at the very best. WHO CARES ABOUT MOVING TO COBB, MOVE TO winnipeg FOR ALL I CARE !  I WILL NEER ATEND AGAIN ! NTIL scherholtz & hat are FIRED!

Paul R Denault
Paul R Denault

Let me make a prediction, John Hart will be gone by the time the Braves move into their new stadium.

Paul R Denault
Paul R Denault

So forexbomb, you think we'll be fine. Finishing in last place, 30 games out of 1st place is your idea of fine!

The 2015 Braves are going to resemble the Boston Red Sox  of 2014. They are going to lose, and lose big.

Paul R Denault
Paul R Denault

Let's see if I've got this straight,


The Braves were a team in 2014 that at many times had trouble scoring runs. So, Mr. Hart we trade away 3 of our most productive players, Justin Upton 29 HR, 102 RBI, 270 BA. Evan Gattis 22 HR, 52 RBI, .317 OBP,  and Jason Heyward a Gold Glove RFer with 58 RBI and a .351 OBP. You better hope the Braves can post round 30 shutouts this season or you're looking at a team that maybe wins 70 games.

Paul R Denault
Paul R Denault

Hey Lovebaseball,


You must be an idiot. You don't spell Gattis with 2 ds. And get your facts straight, he did not have a big fat salary. He was much more than mediocre at best. He hit 22 home runs and won a lot of games for the Braves. You must be one of those geniuses who graduated Magna Cum Laude from the 6th grade.


Snoman

mike91
mike91

I can't decide if this a rebuild or a distruction of a franchise for many many years to come.

Big Wally
Big Wally

Hey Schultz, would just like to point out that there is a basketball team here called the Atlanta Hawks who are doing extremely well.  Just thought I would point that out.  You seem to be unaware of them.

forexbomb
forexbomb

I like Gattis, hopefully he gets some more money... Baseball is such a short term employment for most..

forexbomb
forexbomb

Build the pitching and every thing else will fall in place..  One thing is for sure in baseball... You can't win a championship with out great pitching.. There are plenty of no names that can field and hit the ball for average.  We will be fine..

reckingball
reckingball

Do you think that they should keep Chip?

Dr Phill
Dr Phill

We'll miss you, buddy. Any effort to trade Don Sutton and Joe Simpson?

RON BOONE
RON BOONE

@Dr Phill  I AGREE WITH THEM BENG GONE ! THEY ARE TERRIBLE ! BRING BACK   MILO !

CowbellHell
CowbellHell

NOW we need to outright release BJ and give the people what they want.  I can live with a rebuild...happens all the time and I would rather rebuild than keep barely making the playoffs and getting bumped out.  I CAN'T live with another season of that fool in center field not even hustling, with a swing like a circus clown.

Dawg84
Dawg84

I cannot believe these trades.  I seriously doubt any of these trades will pan out.  These pitchers didn't have good stats in the minors -  what makes them think they will be good in the majors.  The Braves won't score many runs and the pitching is not the good.  A recipe for last place.  It's going to be a long season for Braves fans.  I have a question - why don't the Cardinals ever rebuild?  They always seem to be good.

Buschleaguer
Buschleaguer

Jeff 

What exactly would be the Haul you wanted back from the Gattis trade? A player who was healthy enough to appear in only 108 games batted .263 22HR 52RBI 304 OB% .811 OPS 369 AB 97 K'S 25 BB. Gattis has no true defensive position ,physically he is unable to handle the wear and tear of catching 100 games a year And playing LF in the expansive TED outfield he would be average at best. So the Braves get two players who enter the top 10 of Braves prospects.and another who may be a productive starting pitcher.

Gattis story is remarkable the El Oso Blanco marketing made him popular with the Braves fans ,but having to be healthy enough to play more than 110 games he may be better off on an AL team where he can spend some time as a DH.

Lovebaseball
Lovebaseball

Great News! The Braves did the right thing and got rid of another big fat salary, and they didn't really loose much. Gaddis was mediocre at best. Besides, what were the Braves going to do in 2015 with the lousy team they had? Finish in a distant fourth place in this next year, 2015? Let's go ahead and get rid of Chris Johnson, and if they are loosing big time by June 1st, fire Freddie Gonzoles. Let' s bring up the AAA players, and let them play, get rid of a big payroll, and REBUILD. If they don't stay on this course, there won't be good baseball in ATL for five to ten years. The fans are not used to losers, but that is what they had at the end of 2014. Looking forward to seeing them become good again within the next few years.

Mezark
Mezark

I always checked to see if Gattis was in the lineup. If he wasn't, I didn't watch. 

Remarkable3
Remarkable3

No. I'm not going to any cheep ticket nights or any others either.  I doubt I'll even watch a game.  I don't think Ill be missing much.  They are moving further away from me in every way possible.

Techmate
Techmate

This will be a very interesting year for Freddie G. as far as managing goes. It will be an entirely new approach as the long ball takes a deep back seat to hit and run, steal a base, slap the ball down and put it in play. This could be an exciting brand of baseball. I loved the mid-80's Cardinals under Whitey Herzog. They were a pesky, fun team to watch.

Also I will be looking for Glavine and Smoltz's comments at Spring Training about all these young arms.

And are we still in the hunt for Moncada, the young Cuban outfielder? With some money freed up, why not take a chance on the guy.

Hart and Coppy - keep up the good work. I'll be out at the park. I like the direction we are going in with the re-building. I just hope A.J. can kick some of the veteran's butts(read: BJ) and get them energized.

RickinWarnerRobins
RickinWarnerRobins

@Techmate  If you expect anything exciting out of Fredi G. you are dreaming.  Fredi has proven time and time again he couldn't manage his way out of a wet paper bag.   

HarMul
HarMul

@Techmate I agree with that. When 4 or 5 out of your starting 9 strike out close to 150 times each, you can't play small ball.

DawgDadII
DawgDadII

People keep saying Gattis didn't fit and Bethancourt is penciled in as the starting catcher. All logic aside, I still fail to grasp this line of thinking. Gattis has proven he can hit and produce runs; Bethancourt has proven hitting will be a challenge. Bethancourt may ultimately be the better defensive catcher, but last year he clearly was not. Last year, Gerald Laird stunk up the ballpark as a backup catcher. Bethancourt and Gattis could well have shared the catching duties in 2015, with one or both picking up some time in the outfield and at first base.


There is an OLD baseball adage "if the guy can hit there will be a place for him to play". I guess that place is not Turner Field, where we will be treated to more BJ Upton and a host of no-names..


I have no issue with trading Gattis per se, but unless one of these pitchers winds up with a John Smoltz-type career the Braves got robbed.

Zing
Zing

@SeanLB @DawgDadII Gattis was not overpaid and was under team control for another 4-5 years.  Plus, he was a very popular player with fans, which, while not necessarily baseball-relevant, is BUSINESS relevant.  


Totally agree with DawgDadII - unless these prospects are excellent to awesome, this is a rotten move.  (It also finally shows that the Braves are truly doing a fire sale rather than a competitive now / better tomorrow.  I would not be surprised if they lost 90 games next season).  


Maybe the prospects are that good, though.  Going to do a little reading about them now.

SeanLB
SeanLB

@DawgDadII We had a roster of overpaid or soon-to-be overpaid players AND a depleted farm system.  That is the reality.


These moves stink today, but they're necessary for tomorrow.  I understand the frustration with BJ Upton, but because of his albatross of a contract, he'll be here through at least next season.  There wasn't much else the Braves could do at this point.  


I'm at least glad that they realized that this group of players wasn't going to get anywhere of note, and elected to replenish the farm system and work towards WINNING A TITLE (something that we have consistently underachieved at).

Calel
Calel

I wonder what we'll get for Kimbrel? 

thr2
thr2

The Braves organization has been degraded since we became corporate property, is now in free fall, and will probably continue to flail.           If I were Kimbrel I would be looking to force a trade. If I were Freeman I would feel violated because when he signed the long term contract he surely didn't see going to a farm team for several years.

Buschleaguer
Buschleaguer

@TommyRobertson

Fredie will feel violated until he looks at his paycheck every 15 days.Six figure checks will ease his pain.Maybe it will motivate Freeman to step up and be the leader of the 2015 Atlanta Braves.

SeanLB
SeanLB

Wren hamstrung this franchise.


While these moves are unpopular with fans, I believe that Hart is doing the only thing he COULD do to build a winner.  I don't understand the complaining about getting rid of Heyward, Upton, or Gattis.  I love all 3, but in truth, Heyward was going to want to be paid based on his POTENTIAL, not his production.  Upton was going to get a HUGE contract that we can't afford, and Gattis' trade value has NEVER BEEN HIGHER.  We got 35HR trade return for a guy who has never done so.


It's tough now, but with a loaded farm system, I believe that we're gearing up for another dominant run.  My only hope is that THIS TIME, we can not underachieve and actually knock down a FEW titles.


Just my piece.  Carry on, Braves Nation.  

DawgDadII
DawgDadII

@SeanLB  "We got 35HR trade return for a guy who has never done so."


We did? Two pitchers throwing batting practice in the minors and a run-of-the-mill third base prospect? Maybe one of these pitchers blossoms and has a nice career. Maybe this third baseman becomes more than another Juan Francisco or Chris Johnson. Maybe, maybe, and maybe. In the meantime, instead of the Braves lineup are they going to post the latest Baseball America prospect rankings down at Turner Field?

SeanLB
SeanLB

@DawgDadII @SeanLB Two of the prospects were listed in the Astros "Top 10".  That's a good haul.  Especially considering that Gattis has had a few injury issues.


What would you rather them do?  I'd really like to hear what the expectation was.  

SeanLB
SeanLB

@DawgDadII @SeanLB Also, remember that there was a time when Teheran was "throwing batting practice in the minors" because he was working on developing his curveball.


There's a decent chance that's the case here.  Were you advocating trading away Teheran two years ago because of his poor ERA in the minors?  I doubt it...

Buschleaguer
Buschleaguer

@DawgDadII @SeanLB

The problem the Braves had with Gattis was not his production ,it was all the games he missed.in 2014. To put up the numbers (35 HR) you have to be healthy enough to play in more than 110 games.As far as the prospects the Braves received for Gattis they are now the #3, #6 prospects on the Braves farm system. The run of the mill 3B prospect put up better OPS numbers than any player in the Braves system in 2014.

HarMul
HarMul

@RickinWarnerRobins 

The Astros farm system was among the top 10 in the country. Go check it out. Ours was in the bottom 10 before all the trades.

Dr Phill
Dr Phill

Recent trades recall the great give away to the Texas Rangers from which the Braves got a few games from Mark Texiera, unffective games, I might add.

Isolator70
Isolator70

I could be wrong, but I really think Heyward will take off in St. Louis.  They will be able to put him in the 3 or 5 spot consistanly and I think his numbers will improve dramatically.  Here, he did a passable job at leadoff, but that does not play to his strengths.  The Cardinals just seem like a good all around fit for him and I think a lot of fans will be looking at that move and wondering why we did it.

HarMul
HarMul

@Isolator70 I do believe that Jason trade is the only one that will hurt a bit. Justin was gonna leave for big money and Gattis is meant for the AL so those 2 trades were needed.

SeanLB
SeanLB

@Isolator70 Jason may take off.  Unfortunately, it had the feeling of a situation where "He may develop, but he isn't going to do it here."  With our financial restraints, we couldn't take the chance of paying him $17 mil/year to watch him hit .270.


I think the Heyward trade will work out for BOTH teams, honestly.  

MikeS777
MikeS777

Also, is anyone else having serious issues with this website?  Most of the time it won't even let me log in, and then it often locks up my browser.  This is the first story I've been able to comment on in weeks.  No other website gives me issues.

Buschleaguer
Buschleaguer

@MikeS777 I think the AJC  needs the added pop up advertisements on the blog page to be profitable. But I think this is the worst platform to interact with other posters on .And forget trying to find older posts .

Calel
Calel

@MikeS777


This new site is horrible. I can no longer comment from my phone (iPhone 6 plus), but maybe that's me. And it constantly shuts down from my phone, too (AJC.COM). I can't even SEE a comments section from my phone. I don't know what they thought they were doing with this, but they need to look at sites from some other news organizations. I never had any problems--laptop or mobile--on the old site. I'm quite sure they feel like they've spent a pretty penny on this and we are GOING to like it....even if they force us. 

DawgDadII
DawgDadII

@MikeS777  YES! Check my comment on the Bradley article in the pay site.


I have totally given up attempting to access ajc.com from my Samsung Galaxy, just isn't worth the effort. Even on a laptop on a GB hard-wire network connection and with plenty of RAM the site is just a crapshoot, long-running scripts that crash the browser, overlapping page parts, frequent bugs, and the overload of unwanted garbage content. 

RickinWarnerRobins
RickinWarnerRobins

@MikeS777  I've also had problems...seems like every time I go to a different story, I have to re-log into comments.  It's really annoying.  Today the site has been locking up on me, too...it's just a truly piss-poor website...ten times worse than the old site which was great compared to this crap website.

MikeS777
MikeS777

It's not like this lineup was doing anything in the first place.  They have consistently batted in the .240s under Gonzalez and were awful with runners in scoring position last year.  It might be best to just clean out the lineup and start over.  Clearly it didn't matter who they brought in, and getting rid of Uggla changed nothing.  They need to just let BJ go as well.