If Georgia wins out, would it sway playoff committee?

Todd Gurley’s return gives Georgia a chance to win rest of its games. (AP photo)

Todd Gurley's return gives Georgia a chance to win rest of its games. (AP photo)

Todd Gurley’s return gives Georgia a chance to win rest of its games. (AP photo)

The new college football playoff rankings are out and Georgia has climbed five spots to No. 15. This didn’t figure to be a topic of conversation after the disaster in Jacksonville two weeks ago, but the potential of an uncomfortable situation has presented itself to the selection committee.

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— Georgia presumably took itself out of the playoff derby by losing to Florida. It’s not just that the Bulldogs have two losses, because there’s a chance at least one playoff team will have two losses. It’s that the losses came to two mediocre teams – South Carolina (2-5, 4-5) and Florida (4-3, 5-3). That should weigh heavily if this committee truly is going to judge teams on their entire resume, just as the NCAA Tournament committee judges basketball teams.

— But what if Georgia runs the table, which certainly is possible, especially with Todd Gurley back in the lineup. What if the Dogs close out the regular season with wins over Auburn, Charleston Southern and Georgia Tech, Missouri loses at least once to give Georgia SEC East, and then the Dogs defeat the winner of the SEC West, likely either Mississippi State or Alabama, for the conference championship. Hmmm. (A similar nightmare scenario for the committee: Missouri, which already has lost to Indiana and Georgia, runs the table.)

— The committee would have three choices: 1) Conclude that Georgia’s late-season wins over Auburn and in the SEC championship, make them worthy of a playoff berth; 2) Leapfrog another SEC team over Georgia for a playoff berth (the SEC title game loser would be the most likely candidate); 3) Shut out the SEC completely of the inaugural playoff tournament.

It’s difficult for me to guess which of those three is most plausible.

The only thing that would make it easier on the committee to put Georgia in would be if so many other dominoes fall ahead of them in the rankings. Every team has at least two or three games left and some are rivalry games, so there’s still room for chaos.

Actually, chaos probably is the favorite.

Here’s the remaining schedules for the top 15 teams in the playoff rankings. It doesn’t include potential conference championship games for SEC, ACC, Big Ten and Pacific 12 teams. The Big 12 does not have a title game:

  1. Mississippi State (9-0): at No. 5 Alabama, Vanderbilt, at No. 10 Mississippi.
  2. Oregon (9-1): Colorado, at Oregon State.
  3. Florida State (9-0): at Miami, Boston College, Florida.
  4. TCU (8-1): at Kansas, at Texas, Iowa State.
  5. Alabama (8-1): No. 1 Mississippi State, Western Carolina, No. 9 Auburn.
  6. Arizona State (8-1): at Oregon State, Washington State, at No. 14 Arizona.
  7. Baylor (8-1): Oklahoma State, at Texas Tech, Kansas State.
  8. Ohio State (8-1): at No. 25 Minnesota, Indiana, Michigan
  9. Auburn (7-2): at No. 15 Georgia, Samford, at No. 5 Alabama.
  10. Mississippi (8-2): at Arkansas, No. 1 Mississippi State.
  11. UCLA (8-2): USC, Stanford.
  12. Michigan State (7-2): at Maryland, Rutgers, at Penn State.
  13. Kansas State (7-2): at West Virginia, Kansas, at No. 7 Baylor.
  14. Arizona (7-2): Washington, at No. 23 Utah, at No. 6 Arizona State.
  15. Georgia (7-2): Auburn, Charleston Southern, Georgia Tech.


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245 comments
candlin14
candlin14

Why are we even discussing this??? Georgia is terrible. We have a head coach who is incapable of leading. We have an offensive coordinator who absolutely sucks and a QB who is the worst D-1 quarterback I've ever seen. No chance in hell UGA wins out!!!! No chance!!!! UGA has the same chances the Falcons have of winning there division, ZERO!!!!

CowbellHell
CowbellHell

@candlin14 couldnt agree more, this article is garbage b/c WHOEVER comes out of the SEC west will run up and down the field on that vaunted Pruitt defense.

Born2Buzz
Born2Buzz

I haven't gone through the 240 inane comments to see if someone else asked this, but Schultz, couldn't you say the same thing about GT.  

If GT wins out they would have just as much claim, with losses not quite as bad as UGAs and wins over Clem&Sons, UGA and FSU (if cards fall right to get to ACCCG).

No, I guess the win over UGA wouldn't count for much.  Nevermind.

HuckFinn1835
HuckFinn1835

After UGA loses to the mighty Auburn Tigers by a score of 63-27, won't three terrible losses make it impossible for the playoff selection committee to consider such a weak, feeble team?? UGA will be invited to the Music City Bowl to play in yet another unspectacular event in December.

MontanaDawg
MontanaDawg

Agree with Keendaddy. Dawgs need to learn how to win CONSISTENTLY. Besides, the odds of the Dawgs winning out the rest of the season are very, very slim. We don't have a championship caliber defense or QB. I wouldn't bet on it. 


I still believe Richt needs to go. He reminds my of Bob Stoops (except Stoops did at least win one NC in 2000). Other than that one year, Stoops' teams have mostly under performed - just like CMR's teams. 

keendaddy
keendaddy

Dawgs will get shut out of the playoffs. Maybe some day, we will learn to beat teams we are supposed to beat! Then and only then, will we be taken seriously....

keendaddy
keendaddy

OK, gtcary, Dawgs going 12-2!

gtcaryd
gtcaryd

Where is 350?.............all talk......13-2 baby!!

Mulk
Mulk

Mr. Schultz,


1. Who chooses the committee?

2. Who chose the people that chose the committee?

3. Who pays the committee's expenses?

Mulk
Mulk

@PigIron @Mulk Pig,


Thanks for the link. Very informative but it does not tell me who sits on the "board of managers" or "mgt. committee". These are the people responsible for choosing the selection committee. Who are they?

Dawggie
Dawggie

What an asinine question.  The only time a Richt-led UGA team has been up to the "wins out" finish was, predictably so, only after disqualifying itself with TWO ugly loses to inferior teams (sound familiar?).

2007.

These days, Richt can't keep a team focused and prepared enough to "win out," unless your talking about Tech and a mid-tier bowl game . . .

Peachs
Peachs

The SEC could help itself in this by stop giving Georgia such an easy bracket to Atlanta.  You got the west having a blood bath and the east getting bored with its easy schedule and losing to nobodies. Even if Georgia had beat Fla. and lost to Auburn they still would go to Atlanta beating nobody.  This never gets discussed in this paper. 

gtcaryd
gtcaryd

Now you can add recruits flipping to other teams...........what's bad is he flipped to SC?

Mulk
Mulk

I would like to know 2 things:


1. Who chose the committee?

2. Who chose the people that chose the committee?

3. Who pays the expenses of the committee?

Peachs
Peachs

If they win out they deserve the berth. What are you going to say the SEC was a fake this year? The winner of the conference unless it is a sucker's punch like Duke beating FSU would be in the ACC, should get the berth automatically. That picture was in my mind after Jacksonville.I think the paper knew it too but wanted to strain as much out of the drama and the zealot Dawg fans as possible.

Just like basketball, we have seen teams like Louisville win the NC after coming out of funks.One of the problems with football is it has gotten so much parity there may not ever be a clear national champion again, just like basketball, it will be whoever is hot and lucky enough to get into the tournament. A break here and there and Georgia Southern could have been Cinderella. I have never seen the game like this yet we view it like it is the old school football power days, still spinning what we see with our eyes. The good thing is it is a money machine now so maybe the powers to be will go to the NFL and say back off early drafting so we can keep some quality in the college game. It would be good for the NFL to have a few more college grads, maybe they could teach them some manners, at least have a good look at them before we draft these losers.

Mulk
Mulk

@Peachs I like putting in the conference champs. Only. No do overs. No need to vote on anything. All teams in the country had a chance to win the SEC Least. Didn't they?

Peachs
Peachs

@gtcaryd @Peachs nope I think a team that beats Auburn and either Alabama, or Miss. State and Ga. Tech, which ain't chop liver, should represent the league. And you are not going to have a SEC less final four, in fact I predict two before it is over.

I agree with anyone who is discussed with them losing the easy ones and I don't think Georgia is the best team, even in the SEC but why have a championship game if you don't believe your team is a champion. This ain't a beauty contest and too much politics goes on off the field already, a win is a win. I think one of these teams beat Georgia; they are not as good with Gurley as without him, they lean on him too much. But if they win they go.

gtcaryd
gtcaryd

@Peachs You discounted Duke winning the ACC.....explain the difference?

PigIron
PigIron

@Peachs

Duke has a better resume than does UGA. I wouldn't write off their chances for defeating FSU this year.

PigIron
PigIron

@Mulk

Then put all five conference champs into the four team playoff.

Problem solved!

gtcaryd
gtcaryd

@Peachs So you think a team that lost to SC and UF should play in the 4 team playoff? You and DawginCO must be related?

Mulk
Mulk

This is the type article I would expect to see from Tony BONEhart.....

Peachs
Peachs

@Mulk Barnhart is a homer's homer, like the insurance salesman in Ground Hog Day.

dougmo1965
dougmo1965

Jeff, if my aunt had nads, she'd be my uncle.

IF is the operative word.

Mulk
Mulk

Speaking of being used, maybe the committee considered how badly Spurrier uses UGAG consistently. Speaking of of not using something, maybe the committee considered the loss of tackling skills demonstrated by UGAG in the Florida game. 


If UGAG wins the SEC then the SEC becomes exposed.

C-Kirk
C-Kirk

One of the reasons Oregon got so much love from the selection Committee was because the Committee took into consideration that Oregon's loss was because they had some key players hurt when they got beat but now that the players are healthy Oregon is a different team and thus top 4 material. 

If they are going to overlook losses like that why shouldn't Georgia have a point when they say our two losses was because Gurley was not used. If we had used him on first and four we could have won and in the Florida game even though we got 460 yard of Offense needed Gurley to complete the drill and score every time we were in Florida territory.

If we win out including the SEC Championship the Committee can not ignore why we lost the two games if they are going to give Oregon that reason for losing.

PigIron
PigIron

@C-Kirk

Perhaps the committee views missing games for injury differently than missing games for NCAA rules violations?

DawghaveMange
DawghaveMange

On a neutral field: Miss. St, Ala, Aub, Ole Miss, LSU and Georgia beats FSU.


On a Neutral field: Miss. St, Ala, Auburn, Ole Miss, Georgia, LSU beats Oregon.


On a Neutral field, Miss. St, Alabama, Auburn, Ole Miss, Georgia, LSU, Florida beats TCU...


Your lesson is over for today...go forth and spread your knowledge...

Mulk
Mulk

@DawghaveMange On a neutral field, Florida beats UGAG. Or, maybe that is too hypothetical???

DawghaveMange
DawghaveMange

Georgia Loses to Auburn.

Missouri loses to A&M, Tenn, beats Arkansas

Florida beats South Carolina, E.Kentucky and upsets FSU in 5 OT's.  Wins SEC East.

FSU knocked out of playoff.

2 teams from SEC make playoffs, and Urban Meyer gets upset and "retires" again.

DawghaveMange
DawghaveMange

First ...what committee?


The Chic-fi-la selection committee...


The Gator Bowl committee...


The Autograph Committee......

PigIron
PigIron


How could Georgia make it to the playoff?

Georgia must win out.

Missouri must lose.

MSU must win out and then lose to Georgia in the SECCG.

Every other team currently ranked in the top 10 must lose 2 more games.

That might do the trick.

bajbuzz
bajbuzz

Jeff how can you even suggest that the SEC, the Toughest Greatest Conference Ever, will be shut out of the playoff?  No matter how many losses, the SEC champ, since they play in the Toughest Greatest Conference Ever, will be in.  Heck any fan knows that even a four loss SEC team probably could win the ACC, Big 12, Pac 12, Big Ten, NFC South, American League East...remember, they play in the Toughest Greatest Conference Ever....so how could they NOT be in the final four?  If Georgie runs the table, then they'll be in.  They are, after all, from the SEC, the Toughest Greatest Conference Ever.

Mulk
Mulk

@bajbuzz would have to be on neutral field, though. Right?

PaulinNH
PaulinNH

@bajbuzz 

Only the NFC South?  Rumors up here are that Saban  asked Belichik if they could play the Pats in preseason and Bill declined - said he didn't want Brady to lose confidence

skraeling
skraeling

Let's just concentrate on Auburn and the rest of our schedule.


I'm afraid the selection process for the playoff teams will be rigged to minimze SEC participation.

50Concept
50Concept

The Dogs have an "outside" chance of making the final 4--about the same chance I have of scoring with Kate Upton this next weekend in Vegas.

keendaddy
keendaddy

There should b3e a playoff, of the top 120 teams! I want a recount!

gtcaryd
gtcaryd

@keendaddy Try that again keen.......you lost me......there's a shocker!!

OH-IO
OH-IO

THIS FORMAT AND DOG IN CO SUCK

gtcaryd
gtcaryd

@OH-IO DAWG IN CO SUX FAR WORSE THAN THE NEW FORMAT!!!!!!